Butcher

[Butcher!]

I asked for the log cuz i needed something else... not denying what i did so stop jumping to conclusion, Blaze.

Anyway, before i began i like to say that i've always been a respectable player/admin doesn't matter who says it otherwise but ever now and then you just have to hand over a bottle of milk to ppl such as YDT10 to stop him from crying!

"yes he did try and he was successful in doing so i seriously cant believe he would have abused his previous position here as a trusted admin of |uK| but he has done so" "the reason we didnt change it was because we felt we could trust butcher"(Blaze). WOW! nicely put Blaze. You made it sound so bad ass even i thought i hacked admin pw myself and rageban everyone. Keep in mind that admin pw was given to me and never have i ever abuse my power in the past and most definitely i have never abuse my power after i left uK even though admin pw was the same. So if you guyz think i have something against you and try to do uK harm then i can assure you, get all that shit out of your system.

"Thats retarded butcher. All you had to do was come to one of us and we would have helped you out. Seriously.. " (Shiva) You're wrong Shiv, ONLY you could but u alias all the time and never on ts. My post about uA in uK's "Your Clan" section... deleted, requests.... denied. And here is a lil of what JD had to say "shiva, there have been things that you are not aware about and therefore, i dont think he thought he could ask uK for help as a result." When i ban RapidFire, i did me and uK a favor (even though u guyz didnt ask).

Finally, i want to say that im done arguing with you kids. Your decision was obviously made up from the beginning but i will not go into details. Two words for Blaze and Sam, grow up! ADIOS!

"they are approving ppl bashing butcher..... (JD)

[|uK|B|aZe//.]

just putting this out there rapidfire was an ex uk member and he was never a problem for us so clearly you guys did something to piss him off enough for him to retaliate in the way he did my point is dont bring your own clan issues onto services we provide for free to people that use them. the logic fails if anything ban him on your own server leave us to manage ours.

[SAM]

ban him on your own server leave us to manage ours.

Nothing else to say apart from that.

Doesn't matter who it is. If they used permissions they shouldn't be, then they would be banned. You would ban them too. I'm sure if I logged into your webhost now and deleted your forum that you'd have a bone to pick.

Regardless, I'm not stupid or childish. You are not a child, you could have came and said to me that "this guy hacked your forum can you ban him" and I would have done just that.

[<|Pius|>]

I'm sure if I logged into your webhost now and deleted your forum that you'd have a bone to pick.
Let's keep that as a "what if" :D

[Moko]

From reading that, I think Butcher went in knowing he was going to be banned, only thing is I don't think he thought the other guy would be unbanned.

I have only one question for him:
Did you think of the fact that Lil Butcher now can't play on the servers because you were ticked off?
I mean weather the guy deserves a perma ban or not, it's not your servers.
You said you did them a favor but like you said they didn't ask, and now cause of your "favor" no matter how noble you might think is was was a waist of time.
Now he's unbanned and you and lil But are banned forever.

I hope to see you on your servers once in and a wile, cause I still wanna hs you. >: D

[JD]

sam, blaze you two are being completely irrational in everything you are saying..... we keep saying we dont go to uK cause we havent got one bit of respect from you guys...... ill say what everyone has been saying, rapidfire deleted our forums cause he could not pug.... we did not do anything to him. Also, he has been shit talking uA on the uK servers so im pretty sure thats a bannable offence right there??? but wait he has never done anything wrong right? also YDT im tired of this shit lemme show you something.... this should shut you up.... n btw i dont play assault so i dont get why id 2v1 there....

<JD> .stats YDT10
<@AB0T> YDT10 played in 13 pugs in #siege Weekly: 0.27 Captained: 3 Avg Pick: 5.9 Lamer Count: 1 Last:1 wk 21hrs 55mins 1sec ago 
<JD> .stats JD
<@AB0T> JD played in 5 in #siege Weekly: 0.1 Captained: 1 Avg Pick: 1.8 Lamer Count: 0 Last: 1day 18hrs 7mins 50secs ago 

Now look at the avg pick part of it (JD 1.8 and YDT 5.9 HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA), now ydt when ur ready to play me 1v1 in ctf lemme know, i dont play dm cause well its a dying mod and ive never played it at all..... i find it stupid and boring to play someone in 1v1 dm

[SAM]

sam, blaze you two are being completely irrational in everything you are saying..... we keep saying we dont go to uK cause we havent got one bit of respect from you guys...... ill say what everyone has been saying, rapidfire deleted our forums cause he could not pug.... we did not do anything to him. Also, he has been shit talking uA on the uK servers so im pretty sure thats a bannable offence right there??? but wait he has never done anything wrong right? also YDT im tired of this shit lemme show you something.... this should shut you up.... n btw i dont play assault so i dont get why id 2v1 there....


Rapidfire did whatever he did. He has not done anything to us, so we would not assume an automatic ban. He has been talking alot of shit, yet no one reported him. Anyone who is reported does have action taken against them. Shit talking is not a bannable offence. In fact, people shit talk me all the time. Have I banned you or anyone else for it? No.

We never hogged siege and said no one could recruit. Remember where uA formed from. It formed from here, so did [R]^. We have never had problems with [R]^, why? Because Osyris doesn't do shit that he would not want done to him or his clan. It is as simple as that.

I don't take being pissed off at you (JD as an example) and take it out on others in your clan. Respect? The respect you talk of, from my part disappeared because you chose to overstep the boundaries. I had no issues with Butch until now. I still don't have any issues with Pius. I sat and helped Pius last night with your guys's redirect issues. You can sit and say "SAM you are being irrational" but I am not. Once someone does something to piss me off or double cross me, I'm sorry. There is no turning back. I don't like people who break trust, nor do I like two faced back stabbers.

The sooner you all realise that Butcher carried out a bannable offence, here or any other server for that matter, even uA's, the bigger favour you will be doing yourself sooner.

As far as I'm concerned. If I came to your guys server and banned people, you would be royally pissed. Well, the case is the same for us, here.

Thanks

[JD]

i accidently liked the post, cant unlike haha, and scar you just said "He has been talking alot of shit" there are many people not even in uA saying that this is true..... thats not enough proof to get him banned???? shit talking is not bannable but what he has been saying about uA is...... "Once someone does something to piss me off or double cross me, I'm sorry. There is no turning back. I don't like people who break trust, nor do I like two faced back stabbers." is this why ive been banned for 3-4 months?

[SAM]

i accidently liked the post, cant unlike haha, and scar you just said "He has been talking alot of shit" there are many people not even in uA saying that this is true..... thats not enough proof to get him banned???? shit talking is not bannable but what he has been saying about uA is...... "Once someone does something to piss me off or double cross me, I'm sorry. There is no turning back. I don't like people who break trust, nor do I like two faced back stabbers." is this why ive been banned for 3-4 months?

I'm not going to continue writing you this constant catch ball back and forth. We have never banned anyone on basis of hear say "omg xyz was botting" or "xyz was removing" we always have asked and will ask for proof. There have been no screenshots, or any other form of proof so no, it's not enough in this case. Especially when this is the first I have heard of it.

With regards to the rest JD. You knew what you were doing and you knew what was right and wrong and what you should and shouldn't be doing.

Like I said, I'm not going to tell you constantly like a child needs to be repeated to. If I feel the need to constantly repeat myself, I will either get a parrot or have a baby.

[|uK|B|aZe//.]

sorry but do you NOT know how to read or something JD? hes repeating what you said and answering it they dont teach that in UNI its pretty much first grade

and to explain the post further hes saying if he was shit talking and it was so much of a problem for your own member to talk trash to you or about you why didnt anyone report it?

[Sakura]

JD did that with me too.

I gotta agree wtih Sam, You guys would be royally pissed if a uK abused admin and banned some guy on your server.

[|uK|B|aZe//.]

JD did that with me too.

I gotta agree wtih Sam, You guys would be royally pissed if a uK abused admin and banned some guy on your server.

your not the only one he played in a 1v1 then cried afterwards about it

[|uK|Rays]

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[Moko]

Shit talking is not a bannable offence. In fact, people shit talk me all the time. Have I banned you or anyone else for it? No.

If TS counts you Banned Grim cause he called you gay and a f*g. lol

[Moskva]

I wanna know something, what would you do as uK admins or members if someone (a noob it doesnt matter) starts trashtalking the clan uK, what will you do? just let him go on? or ban him? I would say that the second option sounds more possible but I want an answer from someone who has admin or mod to know what he(she) will do in that case

[|uK|chiseller]

I ban Grim all the time for shittalking, he got used to it.

[|uK|Shiva]

mute

[|uK|Rays]

Moskva, I really do not care at all and highly doubt anyone with a brain cares either. I'm great friends with some of the most anti-uK people and have been playing with them for longer than anyone from this forum. it doesn't matter what you are a part of or what anyone else thinks of it, it's the individual that matters.

[<|Pius|>]

First off, Fuck you YDT. You are the fag. Second of all, JD didn't create [-uA-], I did. Butcher financed the operation, but I've set everything up and organized it all, so don't go calling it his clan. He is in our upper ranks because of his past with |uK|. Anyone who ranked that high in another clan DESERVES to be near the top of ours. It has nothing to do with his grudge with |uK| nor does it have anything to do with his attitude. I also want to make it clear that his attitude should not reflect upon [-uA-] as we don't endorse it. Our clan is called an ALLIANCE for a reason, we're all from different clans in the past, but moreso, we're all from different walks of life. This means that we all act and compose ourselves differently. Yes JD can be a whiner, but he's a winner. If he's not winning, he's whining. Thats a winning attitude because it takes losing out of the equation. Who wants to whine, right? I didn't come here to flame you, I came to set the record straight. JD IS HIS OWN PERSON. So is Butcher and so am I. Really by making the above post you're no better than him. That's something a winner would have done. Well played.
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[JD]

ydt you just said we were playing in combo server, so if i ask for a 1v1 that would mean a 1v1 in the mod we were playing... you forgot to write the part of the log where the score was 12-5 in favor of me.... well done (Y) at that point me and you both said 1v1 (dm) is boring and pointless.... i then said lets play ctf... you missed that out too it seems..... 1v1 dm snipers was ur mod, you have played it before, anyone who knows me will say i play ctf.... i offered to play ctf many times but i would expect you to only post parts of the match that help you, cause well ur sad like that.... how about this ydt, lets play a 1v1 sniper ctf we can both screen shot the result (Y) thats a challenge man up and accept or puss out..... blaze honestly you still shit talk, before in the past when a number of people state the same thing it was a bannable offence, seriously you have something against uA and me, did i cry about it after i played you? wow blaze, sam keep talking shit..... makes you two seem allllll grown up now (Y) shiva get ur admins in line seriously

[<|Pius|>]

"I said a remark to you calling you PiuS, and a fag."
You're the dick that goes around to other servers callin me a fag when I'm not even there to defend myself. I'm not doin this. End of conversation.

[Moko]

Now now boys, play nice.
Can we like stop the flame wars? Ftlog for the past 3 or 4 months it's been flame war after flame war. I for one am getting sick of them, grow up and bite your tongues.

Arguing all the time isn't gonna get you anywhere, it's just more stress and a waist of time.

We're not even talking about the issue, if you wanna play flame war you have 3 threads about banning YDT go argue over there and stick to the issue at hand here.
At this point I don't see what's left to discuss, Butcher logged in when he wasn't suppose to and got banned, he admits he did it he gave his reason and he himself said he doesn't wanna argue.
He's the talk of the thread, when the star leaves the building after giving you his autograph leave him and his sitcom alone and move forward.

And I agree JD can act childish, but hey he can do what he wants, if you don't like it don't look or provoke him to do it by nagging him to death. Sheesh. >.>
It's not like he's talking about or down to people's families and some1 else's personal appeals.

[JD]

ydt i can frag in ctf but not in dm, i dont know why..... when ur ready to play lemme know!! ai im done ezzzzz

[Butcher!]

Is YDumbToe10 bragging here? Why don't you go somewhere and play with your toys or suck on a bottle of milk or go jack off with Grim. No one cares dude!

Moki, u're so little and yet so innocent. I dont think nothing u said that i haven't already considered. lol

JD, stop defending me. We both know its not gonna go anywhere. They already made up their mind you should know that by now! One thing that i have kept from you. They banned you for thrash talking / recruiting their member but it is ok for them to recruit ppl from other clans. Blaze tried to recruit HP many times when he was [R] and when i confronted him his simple reply was "I was jokin". All the smack talking you said and recruiting uK member, just say u were joking. You should be unban *-D. Its a request JD.

Anyway, If it makes you guyz feel any better im gonna admit. I've been an abusive admin, I ban ppl left and right for no reason, i smack talk, i hacked admin pw, (add more here, w/e u like to make u guyz feel happy) .

One last request to all uA. No more! Let it go.

[|uK|B|aZe//.]

stop putting words in my mouth i never said omg butcher hacked our admin password i said you did something to get it it could have been numerous amount of ways e.g. looking through your own past chatlogs to see if any of the admin passes would work, looking through your demo to try any passes you didnt already try so stop being an idiot about it your the one who tried to do us a "favour" which we didnt want i would have thought the hint of losing admin when you left was enough to instill that but it wasnt.

regarding hp ive heard you have "logs" on me of trying to recruit him please post them im 110% sure at the time i was mocking him for joining [R] because at the time he joined, [R] didnt have many members who knew the first thing about UT, sorry for saying this osyris im just saying it how it is, its nothing reflecting what [R] is now your a much better clan now than you was when you first started out just like any other clan.

and jd the excuse of not being able to frag in ctf but not dm is pathetic if its comboinstagib dm it shouldnt be a problem but i guess youve already started making an excuse for your next 1v1 opponent