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SilverWing
01-01-2013, 04:00 AM
Place your trade here!

Reminder on trading rules


Captains will be limited to 4 moves per week (this includes adding people from free agency and trading within teams). *Remember trades are subject to approval.

Trades between teams will be locked in from trading for two (2) rounds. Cannot be dropped into FA

A week is defined from Friday to the next Friday

A move is defined by one player traded for another.
ex: Reb for Blaze = 1 trade

ex: Reb for Blaze, Moskva for Shiva, Moskva for Osyris = 3 trades (or moves)

Trading Begins - Wednesday Januray 2nd 12AM EST

SilverWing
01-02-2013, 12:00 AM
You are able to trade now!

Shotman
01-02-2013, 12:40 AM
I wanna trade myself to someone from the free agent please

Cella
01-02-2013, 04:33 PM
Trade Adrian for Dem, cause he can't play UT anymore.

SilverWing
01-02-2013, 06:11 PM
Trade Adrian for Dem, cause he can't play UT anymore.

Approved

|uK|chiseller
01-02-2013, 07:46 PM
Adrian will be back next week?

SilverWing
01-02-2013, 08:21 PM
Adrian will be back next week?

He might be locked out of the season.

|uK|Tomahawk
01-03-2013, 12:16 AM
Drop Shotman and tata for JD and Donchapula yes yes trade works out?

SilverWing
01-03-2013, 12:19 AM
Drop Shotman and tata for JD and Donchapula yes yes trade works out?

Approved

Shotman
01-03-2013, 01:27 AM
This was my new years resolution, i wanna thank lotrfan for dropping me, SW for approving it, and Grim for being ape. Thank You so much.

Cella
01-03-2013, 04:46 PM
Trade Dewsick for Krikor. No communication from that guy at all.

SilverWing
01-03-2013, 06:59 PM
Trade Dewsick for Krikor. No communication from that guy at all.

Approved

SAM
01-04-2013, 02:25 PM
Unapproved

terminator
01-05-2013, 04:01 PM
Soge for damic!

SilverWing
01-05-2013, 05:29 PM
Soge for damic!

Approved

terminator
01-06-2013, 08:55 AM
ok

kron
01-06-2013, 12:52 PM
Dewsick for Sovvie. :'(

terminator
01-06-2013, 02:10 PM
damic for TATA again!

SilverWing
01-06-2013, 02:20 PM
damic for TATA again!

Approved

|uK|B|aZe//.
01-06-2013, 02:24 PM
Dewsick for Sovvie. :'(

approved

terminator
01-06-2013, 04:25 PM
Keith for Mario

SilverWing
01-06-2013, 07:18 PM
Keith for Mario

Approved

Make sure you trade before the set time of your match. Let this be a warning for everyone.

Rule 3.5

Teams will be locked and unable to make transactions after or during the official start time of their match, and will remain locked until the match is over. Teams will be unlocked following the match, unless they were eliminated from the tournament, or have been mathematically eliminated from the playoffs. Team rosters will be locked 2 days before playoffs start.

terminator
01-07-2013, 02:32 PM
JokerPoland and Spiderman for Damic

SilverWing
01-07-2013, 03:02 PM
JokerPoland and Spiderman for Damic

Denied

You have to have 10 people on your team, not 9.

Rule 3.5

Captains and assistant captains can choose to add and drop players from their roster at anytime by informing an MLSG admin AND by posting in the designated trade thread so that your request is timestamped. Teams must remain under the salary cap and also must maintain a 10 player roster at all times. If a team drops below 10 players for any reason the spot(s) on the roster MUST be filled to bring the team back up to 10, even if it requires dropping additional players to free up salary.

terminator
01-07-2013, 03:11 PM
Ok then mario for damic

SilverWing
01-07-2013, 03:33 PM
Ok then mario for damic

Approved

terminator
01-10-2013, 09:23 AM
BALINT (alpha) for mario!

|uK|B|aZe//.
01-10-2013, 10:37 AM
cant trade out a co captain

terminator
01-10-2013, 11:07 AM
:'(

SilverWing
01-10-2013, 11:09 AM
We play together
We die together
Captains and Co-captains for life

terminator
01-10-2013, 12:20 PM
We don't play together! Therefor we cannot die together! :(

|uK|MiniWick
01-10-2013, 04:19 PM
HeatWave , what's your resolution ? Too leave the gaming idea?

TDNConvict
01-10-2013, 05:00 PM
cant trade out a co captain


you can't trade but if alpha doesn't show this week you can do a protected drop on him so he's not dead weight and at least get someone else, and nobody but you can pick him up

3.7 Player Inactivity

If a player misses 2 consecutive matches, a team can drop that player and contact an admin concerning an inactivity drop. The player may be exchanged for a player of that captain's choosing from the FA pool. This player is now inaccessible for any trade transactions. If the inactive player returns later in the season before the roster lock date, the player's original team gets first choice as to whether or not they'd like to re-add that player to their roster.

personally I think if termi knows for sure alpha isn't going to be there this next match he should be allowed to do protected drop on him before the 2 consecutive match rule, I don't see why should be penalized anymore than he is for trying to step up as a captain

Keith
01-10-2013, 06:55 PM
I hope Termi is being able to trade him because he's an high salaried player, didn't showed up and that could fuck up his team.. having a starter that doesn't show on matches..

TDNConvict
01-11-2013, 01:06 AM
I hope Termi is being able to trade him because he's an high salaried player, didn't showed up and that could fuck up his team.. having a starter that doesn't show on matches..

he is allowed to i'm just stating that since he knows he isn't going to show and has for some time even before first match, admins should waive the two week rule in this case and let him do a protected drop for this weekend.. i know the rule is 2 weeks but i think this is a different circumstance.. plus its only a 5 week season and the guy captained to help everyone out...

terminator
01-11-2013, 04:21 PM
nevermind! He might be back so.. let it stay :)

terminator
01-12-2013, 03:13 PM
fluke for Scourge

|uK|Rays
01-12-2013, 03:59 PM
approved

W4rrior
01-13-2013, 10:38 AM
Gladiator for Keith!

kron
01-13-2013, 11:39 AM
Approved! =]

W4rrior
01-13-2013, 12:46 PM
A3 for SogeKing

kron
01-13-2013, 12:47 PM
approved

SogeKing
01-14-2013, 06:25 PM
I can only play Sundays just so you know W4rrior

Keith
01-14-2013, 06:43 PM
I don't play 4PM matches. W4rrior

W4rrior
01-14-2013, 11:15 PM
Ok Keith SogeKing

terminator
01-16-2013, 09:12 AM
Scourge for Fluke!

Moskva
01-16-2013, 12:39 PM
Scourge for Fluke!

Approved

W4rrior
01-17-2013, 12:19 PM
A3 for SogeKing.

SilverWing
01-17-2013, 12:24 PM
A3 for SogeKing.

Approved

W4rrior
01-19-2013, 03:33 PM
Keith For Gravity

--- Updated ---

U2(CHILE) for BuNB133

kron
01-19-2013, 03:37 PM
approved

kron
01-20-2013, 03:52 PM
Nevermind

terminator
01-21-2013, 02:44 PM
Damic for Adrian

SilverWing
01-21-2013, 02:57 PM
Damic for Adrian

Adrian is locked as he couldn't play.

terminator
01-21-2013, 03:22 PM
unlock him and approve me that thrade! Thanks! ^^

SilverWing
01-21-2013, 04:00 PM
unlock him and approve me that thrade! Thanks! ^^

Can't

|uK|Dem`
01-21-2013, 04:38 PM
we got the first call to pick him up ;)

audiosonic
01-21-2013, 07:24 PM
So pick him up if you want now, or he's gone, simple.

Cella
01-23-2013, 07:31 AM
Were picking adrian before semi finals (so basically play offs) since he cant play earlier, ill inform you later for who we trade him.

ciao

damic
01-23-2013, 08:14 AM
Ok, No problem for Adrian.
My problem in the real life is explain, so I'm still play MLSG.

ciao!

SilverWing
01-23-2013, 08:58 AM
No one can pick up Adrian. He is locked out of the season.

|uK|B|aZe//.
01-23-2013, 02:51 PM
wow srsly sw how hard is this?

termi is asking because adrian is coming back wanting to play, hence why termi is asking if tdm would like to pick him back up as they have the first choice of taking him back or not. if they dont want him then he is able to become a free agent again and termi wants to pick him up, just stop being such an ass about it and do what you need to do as head admin

Moskva
01-23-2013, 02:55 PM
It turns out different if Adrian is WANTING to play, all this time he has been away from the world so didnt really matter, now if hes back and wants to play, he can always use the prick card saying pick me or free me to the rest of the teams

Cella
01-23-2013, 03:16 PM
Yeah I talked to him today, and he said he really still wanted to play in this MLSG, and yeah he is able to play at the start of play offs, so I want to pick him then.. hency me last post..

SilverWing
01-23-2013, 05:10 PM
Ill repeat again, because some people don't understand what I said. HE IS LOCKED OUT OF MLSG. Understand?

Keith
01-23-2013, 05:13 PM
I don't understand how players ends up locked? Activity rule or something like that?

SilverWing
01-23-2013, 05:20 PM
I don't understand how players ends up locked? Activity rule or something like that?

Cella traded Adrian out because he couldn't play (his UT or w.e was not working and he was unable to play), because of rule 3.6 and 3.7 I put Adrian under lock so problems wouldn't happen. Pretty much Adrian is not part of MLSG III.

Cella
01-23-2013, 05:23 PM
dat troll policy xD.

SilverWing
01-23-2013, 05:30 PM
dat troll policy xD.

Sorry Cella, just the way it has to go.

SAM
01-23-2013, 06:03 PM
It's a good policy in my opinion...think about it. If for example someone didn't like their team or wanted to be on another, they just have to drop out and then join the free agents pool...giving them a better chance to be "on that team" or even fix it with "that" team captain...

Keith
01-23-2013, 06:11 PM
I won't lie but I just can't play this season at all due to my schedule work time

Cella
01-23-2013, 06:34 PM
Yeah the policy in general is fine ofcourse, just some minor exceptions in certain cases(like Adrians) in which he wasnt able to play cause he had no computer and stuff, I find that just a little bullshit, even when he tells me he do wants to play on this MLSG and when I have the possibility to pick him first since I dropped him first for the reason above. And well, since the player team rosters aren't locked yet, I should be able to do so according to the rule SW stated.

|uK|chiseller
01-23-2013, 08:06 PM
Indeed.

3.7 Player Inactivity and Insubordination

If a player misses 2 consecutive matches, a team can drop that player and contact an admin concerning an inactivity drop. The player may be exchanged for a player of that captain's choosing from the FA pool. This player is now inaccessible for any trade transactions. If the inactive player returns later in the season before the roster lock date, the player's original team gets first choice as to whether or not they'd like to re-add that player to their roster.

SilverWing
01-23-2013, 08:23 PM
Chis, read the first few words of the rule. Adrian was dropped before round 1 of matches. He wasn't dropped via inactivity.

The thing is this, Adrian couldn't play. So I took him out of the season so no problem would happen about player holding out or insubordination. Any more question, hit me up on TS and ill talk to you. :)

Cella
01-23-2013, 08:44 PM
So what, Dewsick couldn't play either, but yeah he is on your team right.

|uK|chiseller
01-23-2013, 09:42 PM
Chis, read the first few words of the rule. Adrian was dropped before round 1 of matches. He wasn't dropped via inactivity.

The thing is this, Adrian couldn't play. So I took him out of the season so no problem would happen about player holding out or insubordination. Any more question, hit me up on TS and ill talk to you. :)
Okay, true that. Though, since you are being so pedantic about the rules, what rule justified his removal of the league in the first place? All I can find is "If a player is found to be not showing or refusing to play for a certain team due to their dislike of the team or its captain, then that player may be removed from the league entirely per captain request and legitimate evidence against that player.".
This doesn't seem to apply here however. I talked to Adrian and Camilio at the beginning of mlsg and from what I understood it was only a matter of time till he would be back. Some people were just too eager to drop him and have him locked.

What's the harm in letting him play for his original team?

Though, since Cella dropped him right away without waiting the obligatory 2 matches, the most equitable decision would be to put Adrian on the FA list.

Moskva
01-23-2013, 10:19 PM
Dewsick took 2 weeks on vacation, one week before the round 1, missing even the IG LMS tournament he signed in, Kron didnt know if he was gonna show either since he picked him before round 1, and as expected, he didnt show

PS: fó.Bucket

audiosonic
01-24-2013, 06:31 AM
I think Silverwing handle the situation well, since he can't play for like 5 weeks of the season, and teams are locked in the playoffs so you might as well leave him out of the season. It would almost feel as sketchy as someone saying he wouldn't be available at all during the season, and then gets picked up right after draft for a mediocre player ;).

|uK|Rays
01-24-2013, 02:24 PM
2deep4me

SAM
01-24-2013, 03:23 PM
Sketchy one....any word from Reb on this?

|uK|B|aZe//.
01-25-2013, 02:41 AM
ok so hold on you locked him out so other teams couldnt get him?

the rule states if the team captain who had him in his team before has first choice of picking him up - WHICH HE DOES

the reason adrian couldnt play this season was because he had no pc to play from but he told cella that he will be back to play at some point

let cella trade adrian back into his team, if he happens to drop him after a round or before a game you will have a much better idea of whats going on and deal with it appropriately.

TDNConvict
01-26-2013, 11:14 AM
I think Silverwing handle the situation well, since he can't play for like 5 weeks of the season, and teams are locked in the playoffs so you might as well leave him out of the season. It would almost feel as sketchy as someone saying he wouldn't be available at all during the season, and then gets picked up right after draft for a mediocre player ;).


agreed, and also what chis said, cella never waited 2 weeks to lock him.... he dropped him he has been on the fa list... so nobody should have first dips on picking him up. he has missed most of the season already and if he's going to miss week 5 as well thats pretty questionable on being allowed to play from here on out. personally I think at this point he should be locked.. other fa players should be given the opportunity to play instead... ones that have been around just never got picked up or got traded.. there is still a lot of good names on that list

|uK|kenneth
01-26-2013, 11:25 AM
agreed, and also what chis said, cella never waited 2 weeks to lock him.... he dropped him he has been on the fa list... so nobody should have first dips on picking him up. he has missed most of the season already and if he's going to miss week 5 as well thats pretty questionable on being allowed to play from here on out. personally I think at this point he should be locked.. other fa players should be given the opportunity to play instead... ones that have been around just never got picked up or got traded.. there is still a lot of good names on that list

well feel free to trade ursell to the fa list and get someone else in the team.

|uK|B|aZe//.
01-26-2013, 08:19 PM
well feel free to trade ursell to the fa list and get someone else in the team.

rofl dat troll

W4rrior
01-27-2013, 10:58 PM
Graavity for Gladiator

SilverWing
01-27-2013, 11:00 PM
Graavity for Gladiator

Approved

TDNConvict
01-28-2013, 08:54 AM
well feel free to trade ursell to the fa list and get someone else in the team.

your captain had his chance to pick me up... and if I were you i'd be more concerned about eclipsing an average of more than 18 kills per map if you get carried to finals to face us again

or you could just give our team the title already and save everyone the rape

and so it begins ;)

SilverWing
01-28-2013, 08:59 AM
Lol take the trash talk to another thread.

|uK|kenneth
01-28-2013, 10:56 AM
your captain had his chance to pick me up... and if I were you i'd be more concerned about eclipsing an average of more than 18 kills per map if you get carried to finals to face us again

or you could just give our team the title already and save everyone the rape

and so it begins ;)

cant be good at everything >'( your goodin fragging im good in making tele's.

oh btw you had lucky shiva was rusty i was playing LOL blaze has a shit internet so lets see who wins in finals!

TDNConvict
01-29-2013, 06:07 PM
cant be good at everything !

i'm good at everything, uchi is good at everything

|uK|fleecey
01-29-2013, 06:33 PM
i'm good at everything, uchi is good at everything

Dont forget raging at every1.

JD
01-29-2013, 07:19 PM
and people say im full of excuses...... NOW GIVE ME MY CARE BEAR AWARD!!!

Moskva
01-29-2013, 08:10 PM
This is the trades thread, any other non related trade posts will be deleted from now

|uK|Rays
01-29-2013, 08:15 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i9WOdnR-Nfs

Cella
01-30-2013, 05:18 AM
So adrian is locked or no? cause I feel like im wasting my time here.

kron
01-30-2013, 11:57 PM
Magic sucks

Reb
01-31-2013, 10:50 PM
Sketchy one....any word from Reb on this?

Hi, since I'm not an admin this season the decision is up to Silverwing and his team. I don't have the full understanding of the situation to give any official advice.

However, in my past experience, the inactivity rule was usually requested by the team to be activated, meaning self-activation is not in the language of the rule. In the past though if someone can't play at the start of the season due to technical problems, we just took them out of the season.

|uK|chiseller
02-01-2013, 05:40 PM
Shiva for Orus

Moskva
02-01-2013, 05:56 PM
Shiva for Orus

Approved

kron
02-02-2013, 12:56 PM
WE DROP GRIM TO PICK UP ICE

|uK|Rays
02-02-2013, 12:56 PM
I AM PROUD TO ANNOUNCE, WE DROP GRIMREAPER
Händel Messiah - Hallelujah Chorus - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=usfiAsWR4qU)

Moskva
02-02-2013, 12:57 PM
WE DROP GRIM

pickup Ice

http://i636.photobucket.com/albums/uu81/juanfra84/Gifs/drunkr.gif

Cella
02-02-2013, 02:50 PM
Sheepy for Gravity

Moskva
02-02-2013, 03:59 PM
Approved

W4rrior
02-02-2013, 04:01 PM
Black|ShooT FOR M4rio!

Moskva
02-02-2013, 04:02 PM
Approved.

Moskva
02-02-2013, 05:14 PM
Inactive drop Dewsick
Pick BlackShooT

terminator
02-03-2013, 12:00 PM
INACTIVE DROP BALINT for Expander.

|uK|B|aZe//.
02-03-2013, 12:06 PM
you cant have blackshoot we are dangerous are out of the league add to that your team is already in playoffs and already locked out for trading? plus at the time of the trade we are dangerous were mathematically out of the league when the trade happened.

correct me if im wrong?

SilverWing
02-03-2013, 12:14 PM
you cant have blackshoot we are dangerous are out of the league add to that your team is already in playoffs and already locked out for trading? plus at the time of the trade we are dangerous were mathematically out of the league when the trade happened.

correct me if im wrong?

they had to forfeit win both maps to make it to playoffs

MOSKVA EXPLAIN IT FOR LIKE THE 10th TIME!!!

|uK|B|aZe//.
02-03-2013, 12:29 PM
point is at the time of the game between tdm and w4rriors team this was the situation

w4rriors team with 9 points in standings

tdm with 14 points in standings

scenario 1
if w4rriors team had won they get 6 points and end up with 15 points total

and tdm would receive 2 points for the loss and end up with 16 points

so how is the trade out allowed?

scenario 2 is where tdm forfeit both maps receiving no points and w4rriors team go through which they didnt do as they did trades and had 5 to play the game itself

and apparently i need to get a brain?

its very clear whats going on here, and frankly its not surprising its happening in this season when we've never had this problem before

far as i know this trade is not happening.

SilverWing
02-03-2013, 12:39 PM
INACTIVE DROP BALINT for Expander.

Was going to approve this, just so SB can have some fun. But seedings will get screwed if they win. So Denied! Sorry!

--- Updated ---


point is at the time of the game between tdm and w4rriors team this was the situation

w4rriors team with 9 points in standings

tdm with 14 points in standings

scenario 1
if w4rriors team had won they get 6 points and end up with 15 points total

and tdm would receive 2 points for the loss and end up with 16 points

so how is the trade out allowed?

scenario 2 is where tdm forfeit both maps receiving no points and w4rriors team go through which they didnt do as they did trades and had 5 to play the game itself

and apparently i need to get a brain?

its very clear whats going on here, and frankly its not surprising its happening in this season when we've never had this problem before

far as i know this trade is not happening.


the team wasn't locked... if it was locked how could they trade? If by chance they got a FFW they would have made it to playoffs. You can't calculate a mathematical elimination when they still had a chance to go to playoffs. You have cover ever aspect and any chance of them making it.

audiosonic
02-03-2013, 12:57 PM
WE DROP GRIM TO PICK UP ICE

Approved



Inactive drop Dewsick
Pick BlackShooT

Approved

|uK|chiseller
02-03-2013, 03:04 PM
Orus for Shiva

Moskva
02-03-2013, 03:17 PM
Orus for Shiva

Approved

TDNConvict
02-03-2013, 04:07 PM
i don't really see how the blackshoot trade is going through and last season when kenneths team wasn't even eliminated they wouldn't let me be traded.... must be nice having 4 admins on one team having to approve everything and getting first crack at everytyhing..... loooool

JD
02-03-2013, 04:17 PM
seems like me and blaze actually agree on something :O obviously something stupid is happening. I said thanks for service before but honestly i dont see much admining happening now, freeze who hasnt been around at all and is in a team where he got screwed over should not be allowed to approve the trade. Next season please make sure 4 head admins arent on the same team (Y)

|uK|B|aZe//.
02-03-2013, 07:23 PM
oh man freeze approved it?

thats nice watch me create a shitstorm convict have you sent reb the recordings yet?

o wait. its already started

|uK|Rays
02-03-2013, 08:34 PM
y u haff 2 b mad

SilverWing
02-03-2013, 08:46 PM
The trade for BlackShoot by KFC is legal. I’m going to break it down.

1) We 4re Dangerous had a game with TheDreamDrunkMonkeys
2) We 4re Dangerour had to win both maps to make it to playoffs, and SB not to win both maps against Fleeces Minions (Meaning they couldn’t be mathematically eliminated out of the season)
3) We 4re Dangerous had 4 member ready to play but no 5th. No sign of BlackShoot and Osyris for the game.
4) We 4re Dangerous tried to trade BunBee for Mario but didn’t have enough salary to get Mario with that trade. (We 4re Dangerous had total team Salary of $5295 with Blackshoot, meaning they had $105 extra. BunBee is worth $275 and Mario is worth $515.)
5) To make the trade possible We 4re Dangerous had to Trade either BlackShoot or Osyris, and they traded out BlackShoot
6) The trade was approved and an hour after the trade was approved, Moskva requested for Dewsick inactive and to add Blackshoot to the team. (Might I add that the first map was still going on as this was happening)

So, someone wanna tell me how this trade is not legal?

|uK|B|aZe//.
02-03-2013, 10:05 PM
cause it isnt as i stated in my post.

SilverWing
02-03-2013, 10:18 PM
cause it isnt as i stated in my post.


BTW they didnt have 9 points its was 10

Right now they have 11 points

1 point from the lose

0 point because they FFL the 2nd map

meaning they on had 10 points before the match

TDM had 14 points before the match, and if W4D won both maps they would have tied in points but would have went to playoffs because they beat TDM in the match.

|uK|B|aZe//.
02-03-2013, 10:24 PM
they didnt have 10 count the losses up prior to the last game against tdm

3 losses = 6 points

one tie = 3 points

summary 9 points total

lastly

explain this and then explain how you happened to let the trade for blackshoot go through


INACTIVE DROP BALINT for Expander.

Was going to approve this, just so SB can have some fun. But seedings will get screwed if they win. So Denied! Sorry!

another example of head admin insubordination and clearly favouring other teams and yet not giving out fair treatment for all as well as looking after your own teams personal interests. I can go all day and show how much you contradicted yourself over the past two days to help your own team out so that they could just about make playoffs.

SilverWing
02-03-2013, 10:33 PM
they didnt have 10 count the losses up prior to the last game against tdm

3 losses = 6 points

one tie = 3 points

summary 9 points total

lastly

explain this and then explain how you happened to let the trade for blackshoot go through

tie = Win + Lose
Win = 3 points
Lose = 1 point

Ties = 4


Rule 1.2 Tournament Point Format

Each match consists of two maps and no tiebreaker. Teams will be awarded 3 points for each map win, 1 point for each map loss and 0 points for each map forfeit.


Wanna do that math again?

--- Updated ---


another example of head admin insubordination and clearly favouring other teams and yet not giving out fair treatment for all as well as looking after your own teams personal interests. I can go all day and show how much you contradicted yourself over the past two days to help your own team out so that they could just about make playoffs.

How am i favouring the other team? I came to you and told you about this trade and you said okay. LOL?

TDNConvict
02-03-2013, 11:04 PM
the thing i'm the most upset about is that last season I basically wasn't allowed to be traded because I was so high profile.. team was still in running and was blocked from being traded... when its a high caliber player trade like this I just think its funny how I get denied but yet blackshoot gets traded off a team thats in even worse shape.

or have you suddenly developed amnesia SW

Reb
02-04-2013, 12:48 AM
Hey everyone,

I was asked to look at this trade involving Blackshoot. I know it may seem distasteful, but after reviewing the standings, scores, and matches - It has been determined that the trade was allowed.

*If you have questions, pm me on IRC or message me using a PM on this forum.

Cella
02-04-2013, 09:27 AM
Trading Cella(capt) for Darkangel`


was fun mlsg <3

Keith
02-04-2013, 09:41 AM
Lol wtf

kron
02-04-2013, 06:52 PM
Shenanigans.

SilverWing
02-05-2013, 05:34 PM
Teams will be locked on Thursday (February 14th, 2013) 12:00 AM EST

Cella
02-06-2013, 08:27 PM
Well since most admins already know, I'm dropping my status as captain to Dangerboy and his preferred co-captain. I've had my time on this tournament and I really enjoyed it. And if/ if not I can still get inactive traded then by this one I wont be active anymore, and dont decide the trades for TDM anymore.

Ciao all

|uK|Shiva
02-06-2013, 09:19 PM
Is this an emo post?

Moskva
02-06-2013, 09:43 PM
http://25.media.tumblr.com/c48effb3dcce13b9a9025ada16e3aed6/tumblr_mhtwijQMHu1r88u00o1_400.gif

|uK|Rays
02-06-2013, 10:24 PM
Well since most admins already know, I'm dropping my status as captain to Dangerboy and his preferred co-captain. I've had my time on this tournament and I really enjoyed it. And if/ if not I can still get inactive traded then by this one I wont be active anymore, and dont decide the trades for TDM anymore.

Ciao all

Are you really pulling one of those? You made the commitment to captain and you made playoffs, you've got 2 more weeks TOPS to wrap this thing up, finish what you started.

TDNConvict
02-07-2013, 10:59 AM
Is this an emo post?

cella has done pretty well for his first time being captain but ya I think he's just upset about some of the trading

SilverWing
02-07-2013, 11:37 AM
cella has done pretty well for his first time being captain but ya I think he's just upset about some of the trading

I talked to him, and its not about trading.

Im still talking to Reb and to see what we can do. So far the trade is not being approved.

|uK|Dem`
02-08-2013, 01:42 AM
dont be a pussy and allow the trade, you already have Blackshoot and he is 3 times better than grim.

|uK|fleecey
02-08-2013, 05:47 AM
dont be a pussy and allow the trade, you already have Blackshoot and he is 3 times better than grim.

It's still not about the trade..

Cella
02-08-2013, 08:44 AM
So is dropping/trading players stil possible for free agents or no?

SilverWing
02-08-2013, 09:29 AM
dont be a pussy and allow the trade, you already have Blackshoot and he is 3 times better than grim.

What? The problem is that it can't be approved because SB couldn't trade Alpha out because he was Co-Captain. So why should Cella, who is the Captain, be allowed to be dropped?

TDNConvict
02-08-2013, 10:14 AM
What? The problem is that it can't be approved because SB couldn't trade Alpha out because he was Co-Captain. So why should Cella, who is the Captain, be allowed to be dropped?

SB should have been allowed to trade out alpha ESPECIALLY after he went afk for first two weeks... Termi kept hoping that he would show so I don't think he ever asked to trade him but if termi did ask to trade him and u denied it that is pretty fucked up... .. basically sinking a team on purpose imo

Show me where in the rules that you can't drop a player just because he's captain/cocapt... nobody is exempt.... and imo the trade to get blackshoot from a dead team was way more fucked up and shady than cella attempt to trade.. all this after he got screwed with dewsick and adrian shit too what a joke

some people in this community may not exactly break all the rules but they sure as fuck bend the rules to suit themselves - MLSG 4 you can be sure I will be gunning for me and blaze and few others to run it and switch out admins - rules will be revamped to account for things like this If your going to do a season of capt/cocapt it makes perfect sense to put something in writing about trading out capt/cocapt.

and i quote
"Should a captain not take his or her duties seriously, he may be removed from his position as captain by the Tournament and may face suspension."

just approve his fucking trade

SilverWing
02-08-2013, 12:21 PM
SB should have been allowed to trade out alpha ESPECIALLY after he went afk for first two weeks... Termi kept hoping that he would show so I don't think he ever asked to trade him but if termi did ask to trade him and u denied it that is pretty fucked up... .. basically sinking a team on purpose imo

Show me where in the rules that you can't drop a player just because he's captain/cocapt... nobody is exempt.... and imo the trade to get blackshoot from a dead team was way more fucked up and shady than cella attempt to trade.. all this after he got screwed with dewsick and adrian shit too what a joke

some people in this community may not exactly break all the rules but they sure as fuck bend the rules to suit themselves - MLSG 4 you can be sure I will be gunning for me and blaze and few others to run it and switch out admins - rules will be revamped to account for things like this If your going to do a season of capt/cocapt it makes perfect sense to put something in writing about trading out capt/cocapt.

and i quote
"Should a captain not take his or her duties seriously, he may be removed from his position as captain by the Tournament and may face suspension."

just approve his fucking trade


cant trade out a co captain

That's what your butt buddy said. If its going to be applied to one team, its going to be applied to others also. So if there was any blending of rules it was done by Blaze.

I still don't understand why Blaze and you still don't understand that BlackShoot was traded into FA pool because W4D needed a 5th to play 5th round to make it to playoffs. I guess your brain is to small to take in all the info and process it to an actually conclusion. For KFC, Grim's computer power supply got fried and he couldn't play, so your telling me we can't trade him out for someone better when we have a chance? Also Dewsick screwed us over too, he said he would show but he never did. Blackshoot was up for grabs for everyone, anyone could have got him. You want to bring out the rules? Show where in the rules it says KFC couldn't pick up BlackShoot.

And as for Blaze and you running MLSG. LOL... you guys are not going to run it. I already appointed Moskva as the MLSG admin for next season. Why would I appoint two rage faggots to admin MLSG. Season 1 Finals, everyone knows Blaze fucked that shit up by forcing Freezes team to play 3v5 when they could have rescheduled it and had a proper final game. Season 3 SB vs FM, Blaze banning all of SB out of the server because they requested a FFW, he have waited for me to talk to them and discuss what would happen. Season 2 Trades being opened, Convict deletes Moskva trade post for Kieth because his post was over Convicts. Not to mention both of you guys did absolutely jack shit when you guys were on the admin team. Now tell me why I should make you guys admin of next season? What appropriate shit did you do for MLSG or even the Siege Community.

SogeKing
02-08-2013, 12:52 PM
should of let The Great Soge captain up...all this problems would have been solved.

Clearly admins where incompetent from the start. :untroubled:

looking back maybe I was saved some troubles. lel

TDNConvict
02-08-2013, 01:36 PM
That's what your butt buddy said. If its going to be applied to one team, its going to be applied to others also. So if there was any blending of rules it was done by Blaze.

I still don't understand why Blaze and you still don't understand that BlackShoot was traded into FA pool because W4D needed a 5th to play 5th round to make it to playoffs. I guess your brain is to small to take in all the info and process it to an actually conclusion. For KFC, Grim's computer power supply got fried and he couldn't play, so your telling me we can't trade him out for someone better when we have a chance? Also Dewsick screwed us over too, he said he would show but he never did. Blackshoot was up for grabs for everyone, anyone could have got him. You want to bring out the rules? Show where in the rules it says KFC couldn't pick up BlackShoot.

And as for Blaze and you running MLSG. LOL... you guys are not going to run it. I already appointed Moskva as the MLSG admin for next season. Why would I appoint two rage faggots to admin MLSG. Season 1 Finals, everyone knows Blaze fucked that shit up by forcing Freezes team to play 3v5 when they could have rescheduled it and had a proper final game. Season 3 SB vs FM, Blaze banning all of SB out of the server because they requested a FFW, he have waited for me to talk to them and discuss what would happen. Season 2 Trades being opened, Convict deletes Moskva trade post for Kieth because his post was over Convicts. Not to mention both of you guys did absolutely jack shit when you guys were on the admin team. Now tell me why I should make you guys admin of next season? What appropriate shit did you do for MLSG or even the Siege Community.

you arrogant prick - the whole thing with moskva trading season 2 happened because you blocked me from trading and didn't do your fucking job opening trading up - so I was forced to reveal my trade and then had to battle it out with moskva at exactly 12 at night and he got in 2 seconds before me to trade - as it stands ya I was pissed off and even tho I could of blocked moskva from making that trade because of some other reason that I can't even remember anymore I said fuck it and let him make the trade and we ended up with the shittiest team of the season.. I took the high road you bitch

what I have done? lets see only revamped the rules and kept you from fucking teams up last season wanting them to only be 7 players per team, worked with lots of players to make them better, brought in new players first and second season. Shoutcasted, streamed, been admin for matches - done write ups given my opinion for changes among a million other things to make siege better

Also I wanted to reschedule with freeze finals season 1, it never should of been 5 maps and went way too long I wasn't captain or admin for that season - i'd rather have an admin who is competent who tries to keep the peace and is less power hungry rather than one who sticks his nose into everything trying to get forfeits and fucking everything up he touches like you

I don't have to listen to shit you say about season 4 - you have fucked up siege versions more than once.. change things mid season and forget to tell everyone???? or did you forget about the emp changes you made mid season...say your going to do stats and awards and that you can do it better only to completely fuck them up and not even do them?? tried to get a million forfeit wins, make some of the shadiest trades...made polls for things from the community and then just completely ignored the results of what everyone wanted...put yourself on a team of 4 admins clearly pre planned. I could go on for hours with shit you have fucked up - I could run shit 100x better and smoother than you - put it to a poll - can tell u owners of servers and prounreal blaze shiva anguis would side with me

I would like to run season 4 with everyones support - but to be honest as long as you are nowhere near the admin staff i'll be more than happy

I would even be willing to sit out season 4 to admin it so its not a conflict of interest - i'm twice the player and admin u will ever be

the community deserves a silverwing free season 4

Moko
02-08-2013, 02:03 PM
This is the part where I wonder why people ask me why I despise MLSG.
There is more anger and accused corruption in a freaking video game than any person can bare.
IT'S A FRAMNABBIT GAME. PLAY IT - HAVE FUN - AND SHUT UP - REALLY YOU ALL ARE GOING TO MAKE ME GO CRAZY.

Honest question:
I thought the |uK| Clan TEAMED UP with ProUnreal, if so how preytel is SW in charge if he's not even in uk anymore and (as far as I know) not an admin at prounreal. I thought BLAZE appointed him, then Blaze took a break.

You all make a big deal out of a game, that btw I know a couple people other than me that didn't even want to join but did to shut you guys up, as you forced them to play or be captains (referring mostly to last season with the forcing).
So really, if any1 needs to take an "Inside pill" it's SW, Blaze though as crude and roughly as he put it has a point.
But in all seriousness, it's a game. You guys make this have more laws than the government, argue like this is a country, and play for blood and gore.

Enjoy your "league", if by the time you guys finish fighting and acting like children you have one left.


P.S: Blaze I wanna ask you sth. lol

SilverWing
02-08-2013, 02:09 PM
I don't have to listen to shit you say about season 4 - and what the fuck have you done other than fuck up siege versions more than once.. change things mid season and forget to tell everyone???? or did you forget about the emp changes you made mid season...say your going to do stats and awards and that you can do it better only to completely fuck them up and not even do them?? tried to get a million forfeit wins, make some of the shadiest trades...made polls for things from the community and then just completely ignored the results of what everyone wanted... I could go on for hours with shit you have fucked up - I could run shit 100x better and smoother than you - put it to a poll - can tell u owners of servers and prounreal blaze shiva anguis would side with me

The EMP problem was resolved. I explained my case and provided imgs of when the file of modified. The file was modified 2 months before MLSG started and I totally forgot about it. I also told Shiva if he wants we can play the game again.

Season 2 Stats were your job. You said you were going to do it. I suggested stuff for you to add and you didn't do it and Freeze did everything.

What shadiest trade? Yet again, I guess your brain can process shit can it?

Please continue to tell me where I fucked up and I can explain everything.

Blaze, Shiva, Reb and Anguis are not in charge of MLSG. The person in charge is me. Blaze was co-founder with me when suggested the idea to him and got him to help me set it up (IST days). After IST failed, i talked to Reb about prounreal to help us with IST and MLSG was born. Shiva wasn't even part of anything to do with MLSG, and Anguis? LOL

Like I said, Moskva is in charge of the season, and we already planned it out. Next season isn't even going to be called MLSG. Moskva and I agreed to move to a better platform because Blaze was giving problems of |uK| not providing services to MLSG.

Moko
02-08-2013, 02:12 PM
Sw, just no comment.
Have fun.

Krikor
02-08-2013, 02:17 PM
No fucks were given

|uK|kenneth
02-08-2013, 02:32 PM
that mid season emp change fucked me up REALLY BAD could of won that map easily

|uK|Rays
02-08-2013, 03:35 PM
This is the part where I wonder why people ask me why I despise MLSG.
There is more anger and accused corruption in a freaking video game than any person can bare.
IT'S A FRAMNABBIT GAME. PLAY IT - HAVE FUN - AND SHUT UP - REALLY YOU ALL ARE GOING TO MAKE ME GO CRAZY.

Honest question:
I thought the |uK| Clan TEAMED UP with ProUnreal, if so how preytel is SW in charge if he's not even in uk anymore and (as far as I know) not an admin at prounreal. I thought BLAZE appointed him, then Blaze took a break.

You all make a big deal out of a game, that btw I know a couple people other than me that didn't even want to join but did to shut you guys up, as you forced them to play or be captains (referring mostly to last season with the forcing).
So really, if any1 needs to take an "Inside pill" it's SW, Blaze though as crude and roughly as he put it has a point.
But in all seriousness, it's a game. You guys make this have more laws than the government, argue like this is a country, and play for blood and gore.

Enjoy your "league", if by the time you guys finish fighting and acting like children you have one left.


P.S: Blaze I wanna ask you sth. lol

You shouldn't get too worked up about it, this sort of thing happens at least once per season. As for your question, ProU hosts the tournament since they have all the tools to keep a schedule, free agents list, and stuff like that. It would be nice if we could host all of that on this domain but that's entirely up to SAM. Being |uK| doesn't have anything to do with being an MLSG admin, SW/Blaze started the entire thing and it's generally their choice who admins an MLSG season.

It's kind of funny that shit started hitting the fan at the end of the 5th round where the matches don't usually matter that much. I have been rather distant these past 2-3 weeks in regards to UT stuff but I'd still like to know what this plan for season 4 is.

|uK|B|aZe//.
02-08-2013, 03:42 PM
oh wait let me guess your moving to global unreal. good luck with future mlsg's. for the record I've talked to reb about me saying what I did the other day and maybe I was a bit rash but it was needed to be said so I could get my point across.

dont even have the fucking cheek to say I didnt do shit for mlsg look at season one, almost all the posts on the news item section were from me, all the player emails reminding people of their match times was FROM ME I can go on with what was done by me but I have never said this persons not done shit or this person hasnt done shit either so dont go around pointing the finger when you full well know what my position was this season and it WAS NOT to be an admin it was just a role as an advisor and you insisted that I be an admin.

now I ask myself why you insisted? well let me put it simply, you had your team pre-planned with 4 admins just happening to be on one team and the only way to make sure anything got resolved when it went to admin poll was to have a few outsider admins of your team. now tell me the above was just a coincidence.

trust me I can point the finger and ask much better questions than you can.

|uK|Rays
02-08-2013, 03:53 PM
As much as I poke fun at team 4 ADMINS, I don't think it was in any way pre-planned. I went into this season as more of a player than anything else and if I had caught wind of any pre-planned nonsense I would have said something.

terminator
02-08-2013, 04:22 PM
Just make the rules more clear for next season about everything! Even the player drop and pick since i know by myself that i was picking players at last minute.
True, it saved mlsg i believe but still if there are rules then let's stick to it! Otherwise simply change the rules.
I also think that convict and blaze perhaps should be allowed to be mlsg admins if they are gonna stick to the rules and actively participate in administrating it

Neff
02-08-2013, 04:29 PM
No Silverwing No Drama

http://i50.tinypic.com/2cfdwlx.jpg

SilverWing
02-08-2013, 04:39 PM
Rules will be added so problems like these wont happen. MLSG will get full REVAMP. Over the break between season, Moskva and I will deconstruct the league and build it fresh to solve problems and issues that have happened in the past 3 seasons.

From here this thread is back to being the Trade Thread. If you want to talk about any issues make a post.

'Zac
02-08-2013, 05:49 PM
lol neff i love how you stole a picture from a previous thread to make you look cool.

Neff
02-08-2013, 06:35 PM
lol neff i love how you stole a picture from a previous thread to make you look cool.

Or I took a picture from a previous thread recognized Silverwings haircut and edited him in and uploaded it myself.

I don't care how I look or what you think :)

'Zac
02-08-2013, 06:46 PM
no neff, someone else used that picture and now you stole just to make you look like a T O O L . lol just go away lil white boy

Neff
02-08-2013, 06:51 PM
You're dumb as fuck kid stop trying so hard

http://www.unrealkillers.com/f19/requesting-mod-siege-server-3258/index3.html#post47835

Moskva
02-08-2013, 07:08 PM
Denied, next

terminator
02-08-2013, 08:13 PM
Zac for Neff

|uK|Shiva
02-09-2013, 02:37 AM
Wow. So much drama in this thread. Can we all not just get along and have a fun season? Although I think SW is not mature enough to lead or conduct such tournaments I have no doubt about his intentions or his efforts. Not once did I think he changed the emp settings on purpose to fuck with us. An advanced notice would have helped yes, but I dont think SW has ulterior motives or uses underhanded techniques to win games.

Solution to this is pretty simple tbh. The admin team is not bad. They are doing their job well.. but I think SAM/REB whoever has the time availability should be head admin. Someone with a little bit more maturity in responding to forum posts and accusations. We need someone to have a final authority on things and that person is not SW. No offence meant. I hope Reb can step up and take charge of things.

|uK|fleecey
02-09-2013, 06:44 AM
Can we all not just get along and have a fun season?


I hope Reb can step up and take charge of things.

1. Seems like that is not possible..

2. Agreed. Reb (or sam) step up!

|uK|kenneth
02-09-2013, 06:48 AM
yah reb or sam should head admin next season

DANGERBOY
02-09-2013, 07:40 AM
You're dumb as fuck kid stop trying so hard

http://www.unrealkillers.com/f19/requesting-mod-siege-server-3258/index3.html#post47835
Whats's the problem with the kids?...
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Keith
02-09-2013, 08:47 AM
http://i.imgur.com/pJE7R.gif

'Zac
02-09-2013, 12:10 PM
You're dumb as fuck kid stop trying so hard

http://www.unrealkillers.com/f19/requesting-mod-siege-server-3258/index3.html#post47835

yeah ok i mistaken stop making so much noise and not knowing what to do

csnafk
02-09-2013, 03:08 PM
Too late to be added to the FA list? My credentials consist of Moskva, grim's sisters and MAL's mother. All of those will vouch for me that I am deserving to be in this happy fun time league

|uK|B|aZe//.
02-09-2013, 03:25 PM
please...... zac.....

Disturbed//*.
02-09-2013, 05:35 PM
You're dumb as fuck kid stop trying so hard
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kron
02-09-2013, 07:20 PM
Want to know mine and Moskva's "planned" team for MLSG3?
Kron - Moskva - Humpty - SilverWing - Rummy - Blackshoot - Spydee - GrimReaper - f1r3 - Sheepy
In that exact order.
Just to clarify the 4 admin thing, Rays was still on the board to our surprise so we picked him up.

I have already stated that I won't be captain or admin for next season so you won't have to worry about little ol Kron messing things up.

Moskva
02-13-2013, 11:52 PM
Drop MeltedIce
Pickup Chocolate

TDNConvict
02-14-2013, 01:06 PM
drop nobody

pickup grim as our cheerleader

|uK|Rays
02-14-2013, 02:02 PM
drop nobody

pickup grim as our cheerleader

approved

Diablo
02-16-2013, 02:29 PM
Drop MeltedIce
Pickup Chocolate

Approved.