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dex
01-29-2013, 05:52 AM
I'd like to request the IP of the player a_little_girl who played on the server on January 29, 2013 at 5:50 AM ET. I have a demo of obvious combo bot (tracking, instant switching to different targets, etc) along with trigger and possible dodge hack (removes or shortens the delay between dodges). The reason I request an IP is because the game is only played by a handful of players and this one knew how to move, so I have a feeling it is a member of the community using a hack on a public server. I'd like to know who it is. Send me a PM if you don't want to make it public, and I can provide the demo. Thank you!

UNrealshots
01-29-2013, 05:59 AM
A obvious cheater is who he is. I banned him please provide demo. So I can see it and other admins can see it aswell!

dex
01-29-2013, 06:04 AM
FileSwap.com : a_little_girl.dem download free (http://www.fileswap.com/dl/wYtIPq7dSi/)

EDIT: Unfortunately the spectating demo bug is in effect here. It can be circumvented by using Demo Manager and enabling 3rd person mode, then following a_little_girl. Unfortunately, the demo is severely distorted in this view as it is tilted to one side and the view rocks erratically due to the bug. This makes seeing the snapping and occasional "locking" while a shock ball is in motion very difficult to see. Also, I noticed the obvious bot behavior, had a particular culprit in mind due to the location, and immediately began demoing and then minimized to make this thread. Consequently I'm unaware of how blatant the content is post-demoing. I'm assuming you were present during his run?

UNrealshots
01-29-2013, 07:24 AM
He has been cheating on the UK servers for sometime now known as "q3qr or ThaLlamaCappa" Trigger/dodgebot now he's cameback again with more cheats lol.

UNrealshots
01-29-2013, 10:35 AM
He keeps bypassing my nexgen bans always see him back in the server within a few minutes.

|uK|kenneth
01-29-2013, 10:44 AM
SAM can u perma ban this idiot.

Higor
01-29-2013, 11:11 AM
If the demo proves an obvious bot, I don't see why a BanID entry shouldn't be added.

SAM
01-29-2013, 12:46 PM
I remember seeing a log on him I will make sure he is taken care of within the next hour!

SAM
01-29-2013, 01:40 PM
Done. Obviously was tunneling.

dex
01-29-2013, 03:37 PM
The reason I request an IP is that it is often the case that UT99 weapons or IG community members will cheat in servers such as this one because they feel the consequences are low. It would be nice to know who is experimenting with hacks on public servers because it is very telling of what they are trying to get away with in competitive play.

SAM
01-29-2013, 06:52 PM
He is just a random. No clan tags but i will post his huge alias list up. Bump post to remind!

~~D4RR3N~~
01-29-2013, 06:58 PM
SAM REMIND :P

dex
01-29-2013, 08:14 PM
If it is who I suspect it is, it would not be somebody you would know. I suspect it is a weapons player who aliases in public servers exclusively, and would never use his real alias in this server. So you cannot simply say that he is nobody. The other aliases he used might help, but a specific location in Canada would be better, and an IP would be best.

UNrealshots
01-30-2013, 08:08 AM
I believe there has been MULTIPLE people doing this testing cheats out on public with a vpn or something to change there mac and ip etc etc because a few only show up as having "one name"... Shame ut wasnt like STEAM games cheat once your banned..OH gotta buy the game again??? MAKE US MORE MONEY FILTHY CHEATER.

SAM
01-30-2013, 05:41 PM
He's using numerous computers....This is straight from our GAP

Computer one aliases:
Searching: -=[SIEGE]=- |uK| One Night Stand -=[SIEGE]=-
[Canada / Thornhill] 99.238.137.244 dman4 2013-01-22 03:45:26
[Canada / Richmond Hill] 99.238.59.194 digger 2013-01-21 13:16:42

Searching: - = | C O M B O I N S T A G I B | = -
[Canada / Thornhill] 99.238.136.121 Player1 2013-01-30 10:08:48
[Canada / Markham] 99.237.227.176 vvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvv` 2013-01-30 01:22:03
[Canada / Markham] 99.237.227.176 MasterCamper 2013-01-30 01:20:59
[Canada / Thornhill] 99.238.37.31 ;p 2013-01-30 01:01:01
[Canada / Thornhill] 99.238.37.31 MasterCamper 2013-01-30 00:52:15
[Canada / Thornhill] 99.238.37.31 MasterCamper 2013-01-30 00:11:04
[Canada / Thornhill] 99.238.137.110 Player11 2013-01-29 23:55:15
[Canada / Richmond Hill] 99.238.56.4 pop 2013-01-29 23:04:12
[Canada / Richmond Hill] 99.238.56.4 MasterCamper 2013-01-29 22:55:12
[Canada / unknown] 64.15.68.19 HeXx 2013-01-29 18:56:59
69.65.47.114 HeXx 2013-01-29 17:54:35
69.65.47.126 klipshe 2013-01-29 17:26:10
[Canada / unknown] 64.15.68.19 klipshe 2013-01-29 17:24:40
[Canada / Thornhill] 99.238.138.108 FaggotHunter 2013-01-29 16:33:25
[Canada / Thornhill] 99.237.155.77 Frènçh Fû©k 2013-01-29 16:14:00
[Canada / Thornhill] 99.238.138.103 a_little_girl 2013-01-29 11:54:34
[Canada / Thornhill] 99.238.138.103 MotherMonster 2013-01-29 10:04:12
[Canada / Thornhill] 99.238.136.31 MotherMonster 2013-01-29 09:53:08
[Canada / Thornhill] 99.238.137.244 Gaga 2013-01-29 09:37:14
[Canada / Thornhill] 99.238.137.244 dman4 2013-01-21 22:33:51

Searching: [=======] [PURE] [INSTAGIB] [UK] [=======]
[Canada / Thornhill] 99.237.155.77 Cunt© 2013-01-29 14:28:42
[Canada / Thornhill] 99.238.138.103 ShockWhore ® ²º¹³ 2013-01-29 13:04:49
[Canada / Thornhill] 99.238.137.244 dman4 2013-01-22 03:43:59
[Canada / Richmond Hill] 99.238.59.194 digger 2013-01-21 13:17:05

Searching: [=======] [PURE] [INSTAGIB] [US] [=======]
[Canada / Richmond Hill] 99.238.56.4 denzel 2013-01-29 22:56:04
[Canada / unknown] 64.15.68.19 HeXx 2013-01-29 18:13:42
[United States / Arlington Heights] 69.65.47.114 Player10 2013-01-29 17:39:06
[Canada / Richmond Hill] 99.238.56.4 klipshe 2013-01-29 17:38:46
[Canada / Thornhill] 99.238.137.244 Gaga 2013-01-29 08:31:33

[U]Computer two:
Searching: -=[SIEGE]=- |uK| One Night Stand -=[SIEGE]=-
99.238.137.244 Player21 2013-01-28 06:32:46

Searching: - = | C O M B O I N S T A G I B | = -
[Canada / Thornhill] 99.238.137.244 Gaga 2013-01-29 09:37:14
[Canada / Thornhill] 99.238.137.244 Player5 2013-01-28 06:33:49

Searching: [=======] [PURE] [INSTAGIB] [UK] [=======]
[Canada / Thornhill] 99.238.137.244 Player1 2013-01-28 06:32:07

Searching: [=======] [PURE] [INSTAGIB] [US] [=======] [Country / City]
[Canada / Thornhill] 99.238.137.244 Gaga 2013-01-29 08:31:33

[U]Computer three:
Searching: -=[SIEGE]=- |uK| One Night Stand -=[SIEGE]=-
99.238.59.194 ten 2013-01-21 12:57:41
[Canada / Richmond Hill] 99.238.59.194 deepe 2013-01-21 12:52:22
[Canada / Richmond Hill] 99.238.59.194 Player6 2013-01-21 12:47:53
[Canada / Richmond Hill] 99.237.142.96 dennys 2013-01-20 09:56:00

Searching: - = | C O M B O I N S T A G I B | = -
[Canada / Richmond Hill] 99.238.56.67 Frènçh Fû©k 2012-09-11 01:17:43
[Canada / Markham] 99.237.226.104 Cum3Cum2
[Canada / Richmond Hill] 99.238.36.160 BORAX 2012-09-09 05:28:49
[Canada / Thornhill] 99.238.138.59 bubye 2012-09-08 23:43:11
[Canada / Thornhill] 99.238.138.59 poontang 2012-09-08 10:34:13
[Canada / Thornhill] 99.238.138.59 . 2012-09-08 01:59:23
[Canada / Richmond Hill] 99.238.134.131 HexX 2012-09-07 11:23:08
[Canada / Richmond Hill] 99.238.134.131 . 2012-09-07 10:34:01
[Canada / Richmond Hill] 99.238.134.131 HitTheRoadPunk 2012-09-07 09:45:52
[Canada / Richmond Hill] 99.238.134.131 TakeAHike 2012-09-07 08:31:37
[Canada / Richmond Hill] 99.238.134.131 NoFlag4U 2012-09-07 07:51:59
[Canada / Richmond Hill] 99.238.134.131 UnderTheToeNailSTANK 2012-09-07 07:28:02

Searching: [=======] [PURE] [INSTAGIB] [UK] [=======]
[Canada / Thornhill] 99.238.137.244 dman4 2013-01-22 04:05:54
[Canada / Richmond Hill] 99.237.142.96 dennys 2013-01-20 09:57:08
[Canada / Richmond Hill] 99.238.56.67 PROX 2012-09-10 15:28:05
[Canada / Toronto] 74.198.9.55 PROX 2012-09-10 14:21:25
[Canada / Markham] 99.237.226.104 PØRNSTAR 2012-09-10 14:05:04
[Canada / Toronto] 74.198.9.26 eighty-six0r 2012-09-09 10:28:28
[Canada / Maple] 99.238.58.55 eighty-six0r 2012-09-09 10:13:42

Searching: [=======] [PURE] [INSTAGIB] [US] [=======]
[Canada / Richmond Hill] 99.238.59.194 Player6
[Canada / Toronto] 74.198.9.48 dxr 2013-01-20 10:27:17
[Canada / Thornhill] 99.238.137.130 maTrix 2013-01-20 10:12:08
[Canada / Thornhill] 99.237.143.223 324asdfasd 2012-09-13 12:54:28
[Canada / Thornhill] 99.237.143.223 adf3gfada 2012-09-13 11:57:51
[Canada / Thornhill] 99.237.143.223 bbasae354 2012-09-13 11:41:23
[Canada / Thornhill] 99.237.143.223 asdaew4ad3 2012-09-13 11:35:16
[Canada / Thornhill] 99.237.143.223 asdfawerwq 2012-09-13 11:30:10
[Canada / Thornhill] 99.237.143.223 Player1 2012-09-13 11:26:20
[Canada / Thornhill] 99.237.143.223 df 2012-09-13 11:09:33
[Canada / Thornhill] 99.237.143.223 chippy 2012-09-13 11:02:34
[Canada / Richmond Hill] 99.238.56.67 Le Petit Poisson 2012-09-11 03:44:52
[Canada / Richmond Hill] 99.238.56.67 Frènçh Fû©k 2012-09-11 01:20:37
[Canada / Markham] 99.237.226.104 PØRNSTAR 2012-09-10 13:00:09
[Canada / Toronto] 74.198.9.61 Admin 2012-09-09 09:41:14
[Canada / Toronto] 74.198.9.78 plo 2012-09-09 09:36:21
[Canada / Richmond Hill] 99.238.36.160 stylez 2012-09-09 09:19:09
[Canada / Thornhill] 99.238.138.59 SuckIt 2012-09-09 04:10:42
[Canada / Toronto] 74.198.9.32 SuckIt 2012-09-09 03:38:39
[Canada / Richmond Hill] 99.238.134.131 kink 2012-09-07 06:55:05
[Canada / Richmond Hill] 99.238.36.230 TheAggitator 2012-09-07 00:51:29
[Canada / Richmond Hill] 99.238.36.230 tTheAggitator 2012-09-06 22:58:28
[Canada / Richmond Hill] 99.238.36.230 hehehehehehehehehehe 2012-09-06 01:06:18

There's more but those should about do it?

Chamberly
01-31-2013, 01:46 AM
Wow. Nuts.

Higor
01-31-2013, 07:40 AM
This guy is officialy shrink material, good god

|uK|B|aZe//.
01-31-2013, 10:22 AM
sad.

|uK|kenneth
01-31-2013, 11:00 AM
wtf such a nerd.

UT-Sniper-SJA94
02-01-2013, 08:45 PM
A little video i made out of the demos i got of him.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EPHQzPV5PHs&feature=youtu.be

darkshaihulud
02-02-2013, 02:16 PM
Nice Sniper, thanks for putting that together.

'Zac
02-02-2013, 05:36 PM
A little video i made out of the demos i got of him.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EPHQzPV5PHs&feature=youtu.be

doesnt mean someone can do moving combos and hit them most of the time doesnt mean theyre hacking...

Higor
02-02-2013, 05:46 PM
Zac, my development of FerBotZ was based to reduce the difference between Bots and Players, I've spent lots of time comparing aim, movements and other behaviours.
Watching somebody in first person mode, even with these shitty spec options (don't replicate polar coordinates precisely) I can very easily tell that this player is using assisted aim.

This is either a paid bot, or homemade uScript module.
Judging on the botter's lack of common sense and intelligence, my bet goes on the paid bot.

UT-Sniper-SJA94
02-02-2013, 06:01 PM
@zac, did you not see when he shot the shock ball, it auto snapped to the center of the shock 99% of the time, i know the video quality isn't that good but, if you watch it frame by frame from what fraps produces in virtual dub you can easily see its a bot of some kind.

'Zac
02-02-2013, 08:03 PM
yeah now i kinda see. one time i did a double moving combo ( shoot 2 balls and move around and shoot them) on the public server and that person i combo'd said i was cheating xD

BONZ
02-02-2013, 08:23 PM
At first I thought they could just have had incredible aim. However the way the scope snaps back to the ball is just not how humans with good aim behave

Shotman
02-02-2013, 09:32 PM
He was obviously using a trigger bot, @0:15 since he shot the ball first, look around and then went back to the same location. That last shot just look way off he shot the ball then looked at the wall then like .1 fps he want back to the ball

Keith
02-03-2013, 11:28 AM
I do hit moving combos, it's not cheat lol

darkshaihulud
02-03-2013, 01:11 PM
It wasn't just the combos, although he caught me with a bunch that were ridiculously improbable, it was also the movement, zero delay between dodges.

Keith
02-03-2013, 02:23 PM
Yeah the dodgebot is obvious on the video too!

Famine
02-16-2013, 12:10 AM
He's not the only hack to play on this server lately. I've noticed 2-3 that play here fairly often. All change aliases frequently. The most obvious one I've seen is a Canadian that recently used the alias bot_boy, but I've seen at least 2 others.

I don't play if I suspect a hack is also playing (sure there are plenty of other reasons why I might spec, but when I see a hack I will spec)...and this past week I haven't gotten more than 3-4 full maps in.

Just seems to me that there are a few hackers out there who feel this server is easy prey lately.

SAM
02-16-2013, 08:26 AM
Can you make a quick demo while you are speccing so I can ban these?

Famine
02-16-2013, 09:07 PM
Can you make a quick demo while you are speccing so I can ban these?

and once I have some demo's, how do I give them to you? Or do I just make a thread and post them there?

SAM
02-16-2013, 09:43 PM
Yes, just post it and I will look it over

Famine
02-16-2013, 10:53 PM
OK, well I've been trying to upload the 3 demo's I have at the moment, but the site I use (lol-lol.org) seems to be having issues and I keep getting a "FAILED: Westerns - CTF-w00tabulousFixed-2013-02-16-20-06-53.zip REASON: General upload failure." error message.

So does anyone have another site I can upload these to so I can link them here? Thanks

Edit: or maybe I can just upload them directly here? or does that take up too much space if I do that?

|uK|chiseller
02-16-2013, 11:14 PM
Dropbox (http://db.tt/mqvLhD0)
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Famine
02-17-2013, 02:07 AM
Dropbox (http://db.tt/mqvLhD0)
Sign up and get 2.5GB for free!

Thank you for that...but I don't like installing unknown .exe's

|uK|chiseller
02-17-2013, 02:31 AM
Dropbox (service) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dropbox_%28service%29)

Famine
02-17-2013, 02:48 AM
I do appreciate that chiseller, but a post on wikipedia does not make me feel any better about an .exe, but I did find another site.

So here are 5 demo's I made today

Free large file exchange service without size limits (http://www.fileconvoy.com/dfl.php?id=g3487df50015ac36b9992255570adb812c2ee07 962)

CAD_aliaser - CTF-BarnBurnerV2-2013-02-17-01-24-13.zip (5.356 MB)
CAD_aliaser - CTF-Control-2013-02-17-01-11-51.zip (4.158 MB)
Westerns - CTF-(Vp)FragWhorEes-2013-02-16-20-30-08.zip (7.485 MB)
Westerns - CTF-LiandriDocks-2013-02-16-20-46-34.zip (6.913 MB)
Westerns - CTF-w00tabulousFixed-2013-02-16-20-06-53.zip (3.345 MB)

The naming scheme is probably familiar to most of you, as it's the default with Xconsole and I just added the name of the suspected botter at the beginning.

FYI, these are 2 different hackers. Westerns is someone I remember seeing on this server about 6-7 months back (but using a different alias...i'm fairly sure it's the same person as they play identically) but then I stopped seeing him, and now I've been seeing him quite a bit this past week. CAD_aliaser is just what I called the Canadian aliaser that plays here ALOT (and I've seen him on the high speed face weapons server I also play on), this guy is constantly changing his alias, but for these 3 demo's he's using something to the effect of "]y.S[N.e.w.s."

UT-Sniper-SJA94
02-17-2013, 03:33 AM
Westerns is not a bot, i think its infa-red didn't even look at demos(played against him yesterday). Cad demos not working for me, but going to guess it's not a bot as well.


Famine
Ignore Pwnit0, I-LOST, mr.smith, enlightenment ect if you see them in the server calling out bot every game.

|uK|chiseller
02-17-2013, 03:58 AM
None of the demos work for me, unfortunately.

]y.S[N.e.w.s. appears to be jyb - whoever that may be.
Westerns has been playing constantly for the last few months with at least half a dozen aliases each month.


I do appreciate that chiseller, but a post on wikipedia does not make me feel any better about an .exe, but I did find another site.
Do you ever install any programs? If so, what is an "unknown exe" to you and under which criteria does an exe file become trusted? Just out of curiosity.

UT-Sniper-SJA94
02-17-2013, 06:15 AM
JYB

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rtKanGVMag0

Keith
02-17-2013, 09:18 AM
Easily one of his top plays

terminator
02-17-2013, 09:30 AM
[QUOTE=Famine;52091]I do appreciate that chiseller, but a post on wikipedia does not make me feel any better about an .exe, but I did find another site.
/QUOTE]
Rofl is it hard installing virtualbox or getting linux if someone is so suspicious about exe files ? lol

Famine
02-17-2013, 01:03 PM
I looked at that demo of JYB playing... N.e.w.s or whatever his real name is is definetely not JYB. They have completely different playtsyles.

But I really appreciate no one watching the demo's yet saying they are legit...I mean after all, why bother looking at evidence right!

This is almost as bad as the 44oz server admin 8 years ago saying he looked at the demo's I sent him and told me the botter was not botting...problem for him is he didn't bother to look at the demo where I spoke to the botter and he admitted he was botting!

--- Updated ---


Westerns is not a bot, i think its infa-red didn't even look at demos(played against him yesterday). Cad demos not working for me, but going to guess it's not a bot as well.

Ah, you think, and going to guess, so they are not bots. Glad that's all cleared up


Famine
Ignore Pwnit0, I-LOST, mr.smith, enlightenment ect if you see them in the server calling out bot every game.

Why on earth would I need anyone else to say someone is a bot for me to think there is a bot? I don't follow the pack, I make my own decisions based on what I see, not what others say.

UT-Sniper-SJA94
02-17-2013, 01:07 PM
Admins have a look up thing i think so they can see what nicks they have been using, also your demos don't work.

You are sounding like another Pwnit0(crynit0), I-Lost, mr.smith, all that server needs....

|uK|chiseller
02-17-2013, 01:15 PM
Moskva, facepalm gif ASAP.

Famine
02-17-2013, 01:28 PM
Admins have a look up thing i think so they can see what nicks they have been using,

And no admin has said they looked up their aliases and IP's and found that the CAD aliaser is JYB, and I'm sure they won't because JYB does not play anything like the CAD aliaser I have on demo. No one has looked up Westerns yet either, all we have so far is a "I think it is" ...and maybe he's right but simply guessing doesn't make it so.

Edit: also when you can spoof your MAC Hashes as well as HWID's then it really becomes impossible to tell who is who, just change your IP and your all set!


also your demos don't work.

Don't work for you! I played them back before I posted them, they worked for me.


You are sounding like another Pwnit0(crynit0), I-Lost, mr.smith, all that server needs....

And now we get the name calling/insults, I've been through this before. If all you are going to do is "guess" and "think" and then throw insults out when your guesses aren't enough then why bother?

Maybe the admins will be able to confirm they are botting, maybe they will not. In either case what was the point of your posting your "opinion" on demos you haven't watched about players you don't know?

UT-Sniper-SJA94
02-17-2013, 03:13 PM
None of the demos work for me, unfortunately.
.

|uK|B|aZe//.
02-17-2013, 10:33 PM
N.e.w.s is JYB convicted cheater i dont even know why we have this discussion its blackout and crash all over again, why are these multiple time convicted cheaters allowed to play on the servers is beyond me.

secondly westerns is infrared, yet to be convicted, would not suprise me by far if he was actually cheating and just hiding it well, ive been through so many cheaters its only a matter of time.

lastly this CAD person i couldnt find so I will need his exact name to go from anywhere into finding out who it is

and yes i did look up those mentioned, theres no need for me to watch jyb's demos ive seen and had my own recordings of his so called skills, and watched it over. lets just say its another heltah situation.

Famine
02-17-2013, 11:51 PM
Thank you Blaze, that actually is very encouraging.

As for westerns/infrared, when I spec him he has MANY spinning (name your angle and he does it) direct hits. He rarely misses more than 2 or 3 shots in a row and he never ever combo's, it's always primary only. If that's how Infrared plays then it's him. Also those MANY spinning wide angle (including a lot of 180's) shots are all exactly precise (despite the fact he looks like he has a very high sens)...he spins and stops dead on the target, every time...very unlike some other really good players I've seen play (who I'm pretty sure are legit), where they often over-rotate or over spin back and forth while still being quite accurate. Also, even when he's not spinning wildly, he'll be aiming at no-one, though close (within a certain angle) and then as he fires he snaps onto the target...dead on again with no overspin, ever, kinda seems like the bot can be set to target on clicking fire!

What I may do is make those demo's into a movie I can upload to youtube so you can watch them. I'll have to find a copy of Fraps again, or is there something better nowadays (been nearly 8 years since I used a program like Fraps)?

Now, as for this N.e.w.s./JYB person, well I'm glad to hear he was already caught before. Seems he's back now and up to his old tricks. I don't know if this N.e.w.s/JYB is the same Canadian aliasier I see VERY often in this server (for many months now), but if it's not the same person then they have VERY similar playstyles, so much so it's extremely difficult to tell them apart. But for this Canadian aliaser I'm talking about, he uses all kinds of aliases, usually just random crap like the old . , yes that's just a period, last week he used the alias bot_boy for a few games, but very often just makes up a random name (not those vulgar names you sometimes see). He usually uses 1 alias for 2-3 games then leaves and comes back an hour or so later with a new alias.

UT-Sniper-SJA94
02-18-2013, 06:11 AM
Fraps, if it makes ut run slow get udemo manager, and select "timebased" in the Modmenu, if you get 20 fps it still looks decent.

Index of ./ (http://unrealtournament.99.free.fr/utfiles/index.php?search=udemo&dir=&searchMode=f)

Index of ./Movie_Tools/ (http://unrealtournament.99.free.fr/utfiles/index.php?dir=Movie_Tools/)

|uK|B|aZe//.
02-18-2013, 08:26 AM
not sure who the hell he is

IP is 206.248.176.5

guy always uses aliases

jerrys_sweater, i_hate_grabbing, botboy, AIMBOT, irc.globalgamers.net, MEXICANPRIDE, steve_austin, NOPE, Dr_Merle, fugit

etc etc

UT-Sniper-SJA94
02-18-2013, 09:31 AM
Dr_merle he did play lots, now i only see him the odd time now, stand still combo player, if it's the one from Canada. Fugit is a USA player.

Famine
02-20-2013, 02:33 AM
Well it's not Dr_merle, I know Dr_merle (hiya merle :) ), maybe not personally but I've seen him play enough to know it's not him, not that I think anyone thought it was.

The Canadian aliaser was on again today (well considering the time right now that would be yesterday). He was playing as asdf and he was on from about 7:10pm EST until at least 8:00pm when I left the server. I got 2 good demo's of him, and though the aimbot may be well hidden, the radar wasn't too hard to spot.

I'm still working on getting the other demos of westerns on youtube, and I will upload these as well. The only problem I'm having with them is that the final product is a little fuzzy, not very fuzzy but a little fuzzy. Not sure which video format to convert the demo's to, as i'm not all that familiar with them all, but I've been doing mp4's cuz I think they are 1 of the best compression ratios, but if anyone knows which format would be best for a nice clean crisp picture that would be nice. I could try all the different formats but when you have an option for over a dozen formats plus a lot more sub-formats beyond that choice, and when it takes 30-60 minutes for the conversion...that's a lot of time spent doing that.

BONZ
02-20-2013, 03:57 AM
Whoever this is, I've come across them aimbotting on the siege server too under the bot_boy alias.

UT-Sniper-SJA94
02-20-2013, 05:44 AM
Famine
Fraps it.
open the avi file in virtual dub, go to the video drop down menu-> compression-> xvid MPEG-4 Codec, Then file, save as .avi. It's the best setting i have used for a small file size and decent quality.

VirtualDub download (at SourceForge) - virtualdub.org (http://virtualdub.sourceforge.net/)

|uK|chiseller
02-20-2013, 07:13 AM
You are mixing up players.

]y.S[N.e.w.s. = jyb
Westerns = infrared
botboy/./asdf = Dr_Merle


Well it's not Dr_merle, I know Dr_merle (hiya merle :) ), maybe not personally but I've seen him play enough to know it's not him, not that I think anyone thought it was.

Famine
02-20-2013, 01:15 PM
You are mixing up players.

]y.S[N.e.w.s. = jyb
Westerns = infrared
botboy/./asdf = Dr_Merle

OK, when I spec'd ]y.S[N.e.w.s. his playstyles was so much like the canadian aliaser I've seen often (botboy/asdf) that I thought they were the same person.

westerns being infrared seems to be the consensus.

Now as for botboy/./asdf being Dr_merle...are you just guessing or did you look up IP's? Because that is very surprising to me. I have spec'd Dr_merle many times and from what I've seen...as good as Dr_merle is...this botboy aliaser would wipe the floor with Dr_merle and not even notice he was there. Besides which, I have 2 demo's of asdf from yesterday, both of which show a lot of evidence of radar use (once I post the videos you can decide for yourself), and I had finally gotten to the point where I believed Dr_merle was legit.

--- Updated ---


Famine
Fraps it.
open the avi file in virtual dub, go to the video drop down menu-> compression-> xvid MPEG-4 Codec, Then file, save as .avi. It's the best setting i have used for a small file size and decent quality.

VirtualDub download (at SourceForge) - virtualdub.org (http://virtualdub.sourceforge.net/)

Well I have Any Video Converter, which seems like a good piece of software, and just coincidentally the format I've been trying is xvid MPEG-4...I guess I did know the best choice :smile:

I'll try posting them to youtube now. I'll make a new thread on this botboy/./asdf/ aliaser with his videos (once I have them done) and I will post the links with the westerns videos in that other thread someone else just started about him.

And I know no one needs to see the N.e.w.s./jyb videos as he is a famous cheater, but I will post them anyway so the rest of you can see them if you want.

It just may take me a day or two to get all these done.

|uK|chiseller
02-20-2013, 07:26 PM
are you just guessing
Obviously not.


Admins have a look up thing i think so they can see what nicks(computer/mac/ip/etc.) they have been using

Famine
02-20-2013, 11:25 PM
Obviously not.

chiseller, did I do something to offend you?, cuz quote mining like that to make a jab at me seems a bit much! As what I said was...


are you just guessing or did you look up IP's?

Obviously I know admins have the capability to look up IP's/mac/etc.. (though they can all be hacked).

Why should I have assumed you took the time to look up the info before posting? Had you said "I looked up his IP and it's Dr_merle" that would have been different!

SAM
02-22-2013, 05:59 PM
Famine our ban methods are private so is our Admin panel (not stock UT). Trust me, very efficient.

If you can provide demos I promise you we will ban the offending players.

Famine
02-22-2013, 06:23 PM
I do trust you SAM, and this server, and your Admin team.

I tried providing demo's but no one was able to play them (as often happens). So I've been working on converting them so I can upload them to youtube.

As I am sure you know, converting these things to a proper video for youtube isn't that simple...at least until you figure out the best format, which I haven't done yet. I did manage to get a very nice looking video with fraps with 1 of the demo's using the option "Force lossless RGB capture (may be slower)" but as the description says, the video comes out in slow motion..which you might think is a good thing but watching it, to me it's not.

Here are the 2 I've uploaded to youtube so far...I hadn't linked them yet because they turned out somewhat blurry...blurry enough to make it quite a bit different when looking for a bot/radar/etc... but here they are anyway, and I'll keep working on making these 2 better and getting the others I have uploaded.

westerns on Fragwhores
westerns on Fragwhores CTF-(Vp)FragWhorEes-2013-02-16-20-30-08 - YouTube (http://youtu.be/rI3ZFxrfDkU)

westerns on Liandri Docks
westerms on Liandri Docks CTF-LiandriDocks-2013-02-16-20-46-34 - YouTube (http://youtu.be/TESCi6Ozzkg)

Those are just 2 of the many I have of westerns. I also have many of the Canadian aliaser (or aliaser(s) )which I am working on...but it can take over 3 hours (easily) to get 1 demo converted and uploaded to youtube, only to find it is really blurry.

UT-Sniper-SJA94
02-22-2013, 06:29 PM
The videos are very dark :(, why is it taking 3 hours? my computer is made of wood and it only takes a few minutes to convert it. I can post you some settings of the stuff i used.

Famine
I made a little tutorial on my site for you.
http://sja94.weebly.com/virual-dub-tutorial.html

Famine
02-22-2013, 07:15 PM
Well, to fraps the demo's takes 15 minutes (obviously for a 15 minute match). Then to convert that HUGE video file down to a manageable size in a proper format I use Any Video Converter and that takes about 1 to 1 and a half hours, then to upload it to youtube takes another hour to hour and a half.

I just downloaded a copy of virtual dub and will give that program a try, maybe it will work better than what I was using. If I have time (or to be more precise, if I take the time) tonight I will redo those 2 demo's and a few of the others I have.

UT-Sniper-SJA94
02-22-2013, 07:29 PM
When i upload to youtube i don't use any video converters, I just get the file from fraps, open it in virtual dub, and then do what i put in the tutorial. At the default compression i got a 2 minute file down to 26mb with high quality.

|uK|B|aZe//.
02-23-2013, 10:57 AM
looks weird to me on both.

Famine
02-23-2013, 01:23 PM
Well I should have newer better looking copies of those 2 youtube demo's up sometime today. I used the "Force lossless RGB capture (may be slower)" in fraps for a demo which did make it slower but then when I used virtual Dub to compress and convert it, it came out normal speed and with the clear crisp and clean picture quality.

It still takes a while to convert and upload each one, but now at least I know the process and formats for a good quality video.

So they won't look weird to you anymore Blaze

UT-Sniper-SJA94
02-23-2013, 06:34 PM
SAM
Does anyone know who uses the alias Whitey_wackers, i have a strong feeling this is gaga again, the same ping, skin and playing style.
Didn't see anything obvious, but just wanted to check if it's a legit player, and not gaga again.

|uK|chiseller
02-24-2013, 01:06 AM
chiseller, did I do something to offend you?, cuz quote mining like that to make a jab at me seems a bit much! As what I said was...
Just making sure there wouldn't be another misunderstanding this time around.


Obviously I know admins have the capability to look up IP's/mac/etc.. (though they can all be hacked).

Why should I have assumed you took the time to look up the info before posting? Had you said "I looked up his IP and it's Dr_merle" that would have been different!
You obviously know everything.
Why would I - as an admin - have wild guesses, especially when you make such serious allegations?

Whitey_wackers is Merle
I wouldn't be surprised if Merle was in fact Gaga because their IPs are all from the same region - suburbs of Toronto.

UT-Sniper-SJA94
02-24-2013, 09:42 AM
Whoever it was didn't do standing still combos for 95% of his kills like merle does, i did get a demo and if you would like me to post it i will, from what i saw i couldn't see anything , the only thing that caught my eye was the playing style, the exact same ping and skin.

whitey stats from last night. Unreal Tournament Stats - Powered by UTStats (http://www.unrealkillers.com/stats/?p=pinfo&pid=35481)

|uK|B|aZe//.
02-24-2013, 01:17 PM
lmfao

i meant the shots themselves looked very weird in terms of mouse movement and sweeping between targets...

Famine
02-24-2013, 02:09 PM
Just making sure there wouldn't be another misunderstanding this time around.


You obviously know everything.
Why would I - as an admin - have wild guesses, especially when you make such serious allegations?

Whitey_wackers is Merle
I wouldn't be surprised if Merle was in fact Gaga because their IPs are all from the same region - suburbs of Toronto.

chiseller, look i'm sorry if I've said or done something that rubs you the wrong way. It certainly wasn't intentional.

Why would you have a wild guess, especially when it comes to "such a serious allegation"? ... not sure why it's "a serious allegation", it's just botting, if people are afraid to say they see a bot when they see a bot then we are already screwed... Well how would I know if you took the time to look up the IP's or even had the time to do it? I know absolutely nothing about you. I don't know your life or work, I don't know how much free time you have. I really know nothing about you. Which is why I asked if it was a wild guess or if you had looked up the IP's.

Again, I asked you both. I asked you if it was a guess or if you looked up the IP's. You chose to ignore the part where I asked you if you looked up the IP's (thus confirming it) and instead chose to only see the wild guess part.

--- Updated ---


lmfao

i meant the shots themselves looked very weird in terms of mouse movement and sweeping between targets...

Oh, well ya. That's what makes me suspect him too :)

I wasn't able to upload the cleaner version of the video I have to youtube yesterday, as youtube was giving me a real hard time. The first 2 uploads I made which i've linked and you've watched took about 1 to 1 and a half hours each to upload, but I tried uploading more yesterday and the "upload" time i was being given was about 40 hours for 1 upload the same size of the videos I previously uploaded at 1+ hour, and it wasn't my connection in general as I could watch any youtube video with no problem and all other websites were fine, so it was just my uploads that were REALLY slow for some reason.

EDIT: OK, trying to upload to youtube right now, and it's better than yesterday...only 30 hours for an upload now :highly_amused:

As for Whitey_whackers, I see chiseler has confirmed it's Dr_merle, and yes I could have confirmed it as well since there were a few little things he did (that I have seen no one else ever do) that were identical to the other aliases that have been confirmed as Dr_merle.

UT-Sniper-SJA94
02-24-2013, 04:53 PM
Famine
make a five minute video instead of 15 if the upload time is too long, in virtual dub you can cut parts out and other things.

Famine
02-24-2013, 08:44 PM
Famine
make a five minute video instead of 15 if the upload time is too long, in virtual dub you can cut parts out and other things.

I could try that, but I don't think it will make any difference. The 2 videos I already linked are both 15 minutes long, and both of them were a little over 10gig in size when I uploaded them. The 2 I've been trying to upload for a couple of days now are both less than those 10 gigs, 1 is just over 8 gigs and the other well it is 10 gigs, and yet these 2 are both telling me it's going to take about 40 hours to upload when the other 2 only took about 1 hour and 15 mins (give or take). And like I've said, nothing else is giving me slow upload/download speeds, not other websites, not gaming and not torrents...just trying to upload to youtube.

UT-Sniper-SJA94
02-24-2013, 08:52 PM
change the settings of the mpeg-4, press Configure button in the compression menu, and move the slider a bit to the right something like 3.0, it should reduce the file size.

Famine
02-24-2013, 10:21 PM
OK, tried that Sniper and it reduced the file size by about 3 gigs. Then I try uploading that to youtube and I'm still getting about 22 hours for the upload...better than the near 40 hours I was getting before but still not close to the hour and 15 minutes I got a few days back.

The only thing I can think of is maybe youtube slows down the upload speeds on the weekends because they get busier on weekends and the speeds will get back to normal tomorrow?

monkey
02-24-2013, 10:38 PM
Hey guys, can someone sneak in to the combo server sometime and do a video of my first person aim? Then you can analyze it and be certain of an awesome non-cheating player. I only joke.

On a serious note, today I watched an old ctf match and a player kylewins had something like 36%eff. I was like holyfuck, this guy usually has 80-85% eff in combo. That's when I realized how much of a noob I was and most people in the combo server were. So now I have 4 options.

1) Quit while I am ahead
2) Continue Playing combo and feeling happy about good kill streaks
3) Start playing regular instagib
4) Move back to low grav rockets where I can at least be considered top 10.

UT-Sniper-SJA94
02-25-2013, 07:31 AM
Famine
Slide the bar to 4-5 or even higher, just make sure you check the quality before you upload, it may get crappy if you go to high.

monkey
3) Start playing regular instagib :)

IF you are even a below average player at insta you will have no problem dominating the combo server, even i can get 80+eff and have a rare game in the mid 30s for accuracy in combo, compared to insta where I hit mid 20s.

monkey
02-25-2013, 01:21 PM
monkey
3) Start playing regular instagib :)

IF you are even a below average player at insta you will have no problem dominating the combo server, even i can get 80+eff and have a rare game in the mid 30s for accuracy in combo, compared to insta where I hit mid 20s.

Haha. Yea, I was wondering about his 36% eff. He usually never misses in combo, to the point where you can get pissed off. At one point I thought he was the best person I have ever seen play. Now, I know he is just below average in regular instagib. Maybe I will start playing regular instagib. Thanks sniper.

UT-Sniper-SJA94
02-25-2013, 02:38 PM
Low Eff doesn't always mean they are not good, using suicide to get a better spawn point can be much better than having high eff, on ec and other maps i suicide to get the better spawns, like many players do.

In this game it got me some lucky flag kills
http://www.unrealkillers.com/usstats/?p=match&mid=17836

When i said below average players i didn't mean kylewins, i was talking about players like me.

monkey
02-26-2013, 10:59 PM
Low Eff doesn't always mean they are not good, using suicide to get a better spawn point can be much better than having high eff, on ec and other maps i suicide to get the better spawns, like many players do.

In this game it got me some lucky flag kills
Unreal Tournament Stats - Powered by UTStats (http://www.unrealkillers.com/usstats/?p=match&mid=17836)

When i said below average players i didn't mean kylewins, i was talking about players like me.


I now realize that "good" is a relative term. There are players that I consider good and others consider garbage.

Moskva
02-26-2013, 11:59 PM
Now, I know he is just below average in regular instagib.

LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL yea thats why he is worth $1340 in the GU league
#getreal

UT-Sniper-SJA94
02-27-2013, 07:39 AM
LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL yea thats why he is worth $1340 in the GU league
#getreal


^
http://www.globalunreal.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=693

monkey
02-27-2013, 09:50 PM
Lol, so he isn't average after all. It was just because most of the other people playing in the particular game were either higher "value" or close.

--- Updated ---

Sniper thanks. Who the fuck is mrgrins? Also, how come unrealshots is ranked higher than vitz?

UT-Sniper-SJA94
02-27-2013, 09:55 PM
monkey
Mr.grins streams the stuff for globalunreal
http://www.twitch.tv/globalunrealtv
http://www.twitch.tv/mrgrins

http://www.twitch.tv/globalunrealtv/c/1938351

Famine
03-02-2013, 03:13 AM
^
Global Unreal • View topic - Global.iCTF.III Final Rankings + Draft Info (http://www.globalunreal.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=693)

Well, I don't know about the others on the list, but seeing junkyardboy at 1420 when it was confirmed earlier (in this very thread I believe) that he uses hacks really makes that list not worth much.

Keith
03-02-2013, 07:30 AM
I doubt he hacks right now... I think he's just good. The people rated above jyb are better than him anyway

UT-Sniper-SJA94
03-02-2013, 09:10 AM
Just because someone hacked in the past, doesn't mean they are hacking now.
btw, if your still having problems with the videos size, try fraps at a lower resolution, I use 800x640. 8gb seems far to much for 15 minutes of video. 2minutes of one i made was around 50mb.

Shotman
03-02-2013, 06:01 PM
sniper don't be so sure, look at heltah he cheated in the past and when people were being suspicious on him, they were pretty much saying like you did. Then couple days/weeks/months later he was caught cheating and took him sometime to confess.

UT-Sniper-SJA94
03-02-2013, 06:03 PM
sniper don't be so sure, look at heltah he cheated in the past and when people were being suspicious on him, they were pretty much saying like you did. Then couple days/weeks/months later he was caught cheating and took him sometime to confess.

Forgot about players like that :o< is that the guy who used a $50 bot?

monkey
03-02-2013, 11:42 PM
Forgot about players like that :o< is that the guy who used a $50 bot?

WTF is wrong with people. Cheating is bad enough, but paying $50 to waste time is ridiculous.

Shotman
03-02-2013, 11:48 PM
wouldn't you say that being the same thing for wasting tons on money on gaming gear instead of using that money to help your family out or yourself in the future?

monkey
03-02-2013, 11:56 PM
wouldn't you say that being the same thing for wasting tons on money on gaming gear instead of using that money to help your family out or yourself in the future?

Not quite the same. Computers are not only used for games. Email, homework, research, etc... $50 cheat is 100% waste of money.

Shotman
03-03-2013, 01:02 PM
i said "gaming gear" meaning ONLY things for GAMING (consoles, joysticks, special mices, special keyboards, ect).
Did i even say anything about Pcs in my last post?

Famine
03-03-2013, 01:32 PM
cheating is a mindset. Some people would NEVER cheat, they just could never understand it, and there are others that would always cheat to win if they can/need to (think psychopath...not the hollywood version but the real thing, when 5% of society are psychopaths there's plenty to go around), and in between you have the majority who might or might not cheat but if they did they'd feel a little bad about it and maybe ashamed. But getting caught will not change a persons' outlook on cheating (well it might for some who are far closer to that "NEVER" cheat category).

There's a reason someone cheats, and getting caught doesn't eliminate that reason. You can only hope that getting caught is enough of an incentive to stop cheating.

As for me I'll believe JYB is not cheating when I can watch videos of multiple games from 2 camera angles...1 camera on his hands (keyboard/mouse) and 1 on his monitor while he plays and plays to the same standards he is known to.

UNrealshots
03-04-2013, 04:53 PM
Heatwave says some of the most useless shit ever.....

Shotman
03-04-2013, 05:18 PM
yet i have over 1000 bucks in my bank, and gaining more.

UNrealshots
03-04-2013, 05:31 PM
Congratulations heatwave! I could care less how much you have in the bank. I make a grand every week only working 3 days. Even if I made 300 dollars a week I wouldn't give 2 shits how much money you have.

Also why does it matter to you that people buy computer items... What should it matter to you? It's that person's money he/she can do w/e they want with it lol.

Should I whine and complain about ur '83 ford thunderbird you spent time and money into? Nope its your money do what the fuck ever pleases you.

-end of rant growup more plz.

Shotman
03-04-2013, 07:56 PM
your so stupid unrealshots did i say i "care", i am stating a statement and said gaming gear, since when is gaming gear a computer item. For fuck sakes unrealshots most of time you should just go back to school and learn something because you can 3x the money if you have a degree. The car is a school related and HAD to be able to graduate and succeeed in life. I spent my mone wisely, I did not waste it on spending the most expesnive paint i spent it on reasonable paint where it can do whatever you have to. It goes with different cases too: cheap mouse vs expensive mouse, I mean is it really worthy. My computer is like 7-8 years old, yet it can run any game and also does the neccessary things i want. I don't need to buy special items, and haven't replaced any parts, just an exception it will need more ram. But really unrealshots you should just take a break in gaming and get out of that chair/bedroom of yours.

monkey
03-04-2013, 08:42 PM
your so stupid unrealshots did i say i "care", i am stating a statement and said gaming gear, since when is gaming gear a computer item. For fuck sakes unrealshots most of time you should just go back to school and learn something because you can 3x the money if you have a degree. The car is a school related and HAD to be able to graduate and succeeed in life. I spent my mone wisely, I did not waste it on spending the most expesnive paint i spent it on reasonable paint where it can do whatever you have to. It goes with different cases too: cheap mouse vs expensive mouse, I mean is it really worthy. My computer is like 7-8 years old, yet it can run any game and also does the neccessary things i want. I don't need to buy special items, and haven't replaced any parts, just an exception it will need more ram. But really unrealshots you should just take a break in gaming and get out of that chair/bedroom of yours.

Heatwave, just so you understand, I am in my senior year of electrical engineering (all paid for). I will continue in an accelerated masters program to obtain my masters in 1 year (paid fully for + stipend). Talking about who can save the most money is sort of irrelevant. I couldn't care less about spending money to have fun. But what fun is a bot that does nothing except clarify that you will never be able to play competitively. It is a waste of time which is why I said "paying $50 to waste time is ridiculous." Attacking Unrealshots simply makes you look stupid, which I don't think is your intention (to look stupid). You tell him to go back to school and yet you don't know the difference between "your" and "you're." Your first run-on sentence is loaded with irony. But, this is not what I do. I don't go around hurling insults at everyone who doesn't use grammar correctly. This would be pretty stupid. Also, I don't go around saying "useless shit" as Shots nicely put it.

We live life once, and should enjoy it, even if that means splurging once in a while. However, if you have fun degrading others, then you need to seriously rethink your life and even your existence.

monkey
03-04-2013, 08:54 PM
cheating is a mindset. Some people would NEVER cheat, they just could never understand it, and there are others that would always cheat to win if they can/need to (think psychopath...not the hollywood version but the real thing, when 5% of society are psychopaths there's plenty to go around), and in between you have the majority who might or might not cheat but if they did they'd feel a little bad about it and maybe ashamed. But getting caught will not change a persons' outlook on cheating (well it might for some who are far closer to that "NEVER" cheat category).

There's a reason someone cheats, and getting caught doesn't eliminate that reason. You can only hope that getting caught is enough of an incentive to stop cheating.

As for me I'll believe JYB is not cheating when I can watch videos of multiple games from 2 camera angles...1 camera on his hands (keyboard/mouse) and 1 on his monitor while he plays and plays to the same standards he is known to.

You are 100% right.

I think JYB joined a game yesterday and had something like 249 kills. I can get 255, so his cheat either sucks or I slowed him down tremendously. Haha. I am glad that I am in the never cheat category. I just feel its rather stupid since you are not doing anything with your own abilities. Its press go, and woohoo, a robot wins, or at least, that is what I assume.

UT-Sniper-SJA94
03-04-2013, 09:07 PM
no offence monkey, you can't compare yourself to JYB :p.
Or compare Insta to Combo.

monkey
03-04-2013, 09:12 PM
no offence monkey, you can't compare yourself to JYB :p.

Lol none taken. I know there are a ton of players out there who are way better than me. I have seen some videos that make me scratch my head.

Shotman
03-05-2013, 11:21 PM
I just want to say this, I want to thank unrealshots for helping me write my first paragraph for my essay. This was how a true gamer mind responds to a question or a topic about money. Monkey, you do know that unrealshots and I fight a lot, I have known him from the |WS| days maybe even the -={SDA}=- days, he will know when I am trolling him. Also haven't you guys thought of the question I asked which was "isn't that the same as buying gaming gear?" after sniper/monkey said something about heltah wasting 50 dollars for a cheat. Well think about it, gaming gear would be items you purchase that would help you improve and/or upgrade your gaming experience, legally. Now cheat is an item or a tool that you purchase, most likely online, that will help you improve and/or upgrade your gaming experience, illegally. So it would be the same because both will improve your gaming experience and make your skills improve a whole lot. The only difference is one is illegally, that will get you ban for most online servers and is the fastest route (10 min) to get your skills 10x better. While the other one is legal and you will improve 10x better but it will take a longer period of time to do so (few years depending on your settings).

Now with cheaters, I would classify them as in two categories: smart/experienced cheaters and newbies/dumb cheaters.

Smart/Experienced Cheaters (Eno, Heltah, Koala[the old siege developer], Baiter): These cheaters will be known to be as a mod developer, administrator that has to do with anti-cheats, and players that have been playing over many years. They will have experience in coding, which will involve in creating a cheat or help to improve a cheat that he/she purchased, and also how to bypass the current anti-cheat protection, in this case ACE. They will also be some part of an admin team of helping catching cheaters, but at the same time it will help them improve of not getting caught. Now there are people that have been playing for many years (these are people that taught you how to play UT or be what you are today) but like admins, they have observed what cheaters have been doing wrong. Then they will try to improve it of not getting caught. When they get caught, they will deny everything. Which sometimes work but when the pressure gets to the person, they will either leave for a long time or surrender

Newbie/Dumb Cheaters (Diogo???, IJ, and all the players that are in your bans list) These cheaters will have no prior experience in cheating whatsoever. They are mostly noobs that barely have played UT, but want to be good as soon as possible. Later after they get caught they would cry a lot saying their dog, cat, aunt, or a sibling did it and was not him. If that does not work, they would blame chicken edition, or where they downloaded UT. Now finally, this is one is from IJ which is that "he needed to study and decided to cheat so he can take a break of UT."

Which then make me think if JYB is in fact cheating, then he would fall as an experienced cheater because he is hiding it quite well.

Finally, don't you think that sometimes pug players are probably "testing" they're cheats or so called "new ini" on your servers? Since they don't want to get banned from the channel they pug at, they would rather risk it in public where hopefully no one finds out. That is my question, which can probably be true in some cases, to improve their cheat and make it stealthier on pugs. Also I see that people are trying to take away bugs, but maybe developers made these bugs in order to catch cheaters betters? If you know there is a bug in a certain place, you will try to replicate it and if it fails to replicate it, then they are more suspicious.

That is my theory and I am sticking to it.

Higor
03-05-2013, 11:46 PM
^^
Truth.

Facts *-

Back on RC13(or 12?) when I found out that Koala's visor could be turned on with 2 commands, I actually played a few games to test it.
I did went a bit over the line by getting over 200 kills in Simplex][ lol.
Or when I found an undeleted exploit (another single command) on RC14 that made your whole team leech 25% more, and the enemies leech 25% less...

It was fun using those a few games but things like these had to go, it's cheating after all.
Do I get banned now?


PD: I also got to make a working radar prototype, PM'd anth about how I got it and he still didn't update 09 with that fix :(
PD2: No, I haven't run that one for over a year and a half.

Moskva
03-06-2013, 12:49 AM
Less rustled jimmies, more gifs

http://25.media.tumblr.com/9595449832c49f65bb8425b38c870557/tumblr_mj824mbyOx1qdlh1io1_400.gif

UNrealshots
03-06-2013, 03:00 AM
lmfao noobs xD

Keith
03-06-2013, 06:16 AM
I happened to use "testing" on my name when I got my benq monitor or a gaming mouse ^^

UT-Sniper-SJA94
03-06-2013, 09:37 AM
lol higor :)

There was a time on the us insta server, (6v6 woot :o), and for something like 20 seconds i would spawn and be killed 0.1 seconds by the same guy over and over, i looked in the console he was only killing me even though people was spawning all over, i then went to spec the player then leaves. I do think something funny was going on, there was someone on my team with the same skin he didn't get killed.




I happened to use "testing" on my name when I got my benq monitor or a gaming mouse ^^

CRT's are better:lol:

If you don't test things out you will not find out what you play best with, and what you play bad with, even though people think on combo if you use testing in your name your cheating.

I have been fine tuning my settings lately, and hit back to back 35%acc games yesterday on duku (http://www.unrealkillers.com/usstats/?p=match&mid=19726) and coret (http://www.unrealkillers.com/usstats/?p=match&mid=19850)(both insta)

Keith
03-06-2013, 10:19 AM
Yeah I miss my crt but there's no way I can get one where I live and if I manage to find one online the shipping costs would be ridiculously high so I gave up on that idea

Higor
03-06-2013, 10:32 AM
There was a time on the us insta server, (6v6 woot ), and for something like 20 seconds i would spawn and be killed 0.1 seconds by the same guy over and over, i looked in the console he was only killing me even though people was spawning all over, i then went to spec the player then leaves. I do think something funny was going on, there was someone on my team with the same skin he didn't get killed.

Looks like a severe case of butthurt gamer, keep it up!

UT-Sniper-SJA94
03-06-2013, 11:01 AM
pffff, wish i had the demo...:moody:

Yeah that's the worst thing about crt, weight and size, the one i use is about 42lbs

SAM
03-06-2013, 03:53 PM
Just move to a third world country. Plenty of CRTs there

UT-Sniper-SJA94
03-06-2013, 04:13 PM
Got mine from cashconverters 3 years ago, for a massive £1 :D

monkey
03-07-2013, 06:24 PM
Heatwave, I didn't know you and Unrealshots fight a lot.:) Also, it's kinda hard to tell when someone is trolling, especially if there are no hints pointing to it.

On the gaming gear vs bot issue, some of what you say is valid, but all in all they are two very different things. Gaming gear makes your gaming experience more comfortable and enjoyable. For example, I bought a gaming mouse (G9x). Since I had this mouse there was no significant improvement in my gaming experience beside the comfortable feel of the mouse. Sure it has a higher DPI, but this is merely smoother movement (at high DPI and low sensitivity). But, unless if your gaming gear can allow you to hit whoever you want, whenever you want, then it can't be considered the same as bot. In my personal opinion, it seems like there is absolutely no gaming experience with a bot. The bot does as much work as you set it to do and you are really just a spectator and not a "gamer." So, I feel it diminishes any real "gaming experience." (Perhaps it improves your trolling experience?)

UT-Sniper-SJA94
03-07-2013, 07:16 PM
@ monkey

try some of the setting people post here Global Unreal &bull; View topic - The UT Mouse thread (http://www.globalunreal.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=156&hilit=mouse+thread&start=25)


High dpi is normally for high mouse settings.

I use 1200dpi 500hz 0.62 ut sens

|uK|B|aZe//.
03-09-2013, 07:41 AM
Heatwave, I didn't know you and Unrealshots fight a lot.:) Also, it's kinda hard to tell when someone is trolling, especially if there are no hints pointing to it.

On the gaming gear vs bot issue, some of what you say is valid, but all in all they are two very different things. Gaming gear makes your gaming experience more comfortable and enjoyable. For example, I bought a gaming mouse (G9x). Since I had this mouse there was no significant improvement in my gaming experience beside the comfortable feel of the mouse. Sure it has a higher DPI, but this is merely smoother movement (at high DPI and low sensitivity). But, unless if your gaming gear can allow you to hit whoever you want, whenever you want, then it can't be considered the same as bot. In my personal opinion, it seems like there is absolutely no gaming experience with a bot. The bot does as much work as you set it to do and you are really just a spectator and not a "gamer." So, I feel it diminishes any real "gaming experience." (Perhaps it improves your trolling experience?)

if youve got gaming gear and havent improved, I'd say youre not using them properly and havent changed your setup to better your game with the gaming things youve got

monkey
03-09-2013, 09:27 PM
Maybe.

UT-Sniper-SJA94
03-09-2013, 09:50 PM
monkey
Have you tried win7 mouse fix?
That is if you don't like mouse acceleration.

monkey
03-10-2013, 10:34 PM
No, I haven't. The G9x mouse has software that comes with it though, which I believe can change pretty much any setting for mouse control.
Maybe later this week, I will mess around with it.