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    That has been their approach, absolutely, but the fact that they don't take refugees is also true.

    Russian government can do what they want, it's just, you know, what bothers me is the agenda that the media (RT in this case) tries to pull off.
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    From what I know so far, Trump has effectively promised to:
    - Stomp on American civil rights, and further on due process, in the name of counter-terrorism;
    - Commit war crimes, in the name of counter-terrorism;
    - Effectively throw a wrench in the world economy through protectionist trade policy;
    - Ostracize the rest of the world through his mass deportation and wall policies;
    - Tie up the supreme court with a conservative justice handpicked by the Heritage Foundation, should one die during his term;
    - Ignore climate science and give FF companies a free pass, further screwing the biosphere.

    By contrast, Hillary is:
    - Probably a criminal.
    - Will probably also stomp on American civil rights and due process, in the name of counter-terrorism.
    - Will probably also commit war crimes, if fewer than Trump, in the name of counter-terrorism.

    So neither is a great choice, but if I'm absolutely forced to do it I'll take giant douche over shit sandwich.

    I'd rather vote third party, but until the message that picking the lesser of two evils only results in a race to the bottom can be effectively disseminated and pledged to tens of millions of voters, it's a gesture of futility. We have four months.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scourge View Post
    Probably
    https://www.amazon.com/Clinton-Cash-.../dp/0062369288

    I'm not gonna try to convince you of anything.
    Instead let's try to understand why the world has gone to the tub in the past years.

    Think of the whole "Socialism vs Capitalism", well, that doesn't exist anymore... it's outdated and voters should also understand that voting on those criterias will lead to nothing as their parties no longer represent these ideals.

    So what's up then? Let's change the words with "Corporativism 'and' Neoliberalism", that's pretty much what all of the main establishment parties in the first world are about.
    You are under the impression that voting for either of the establishment candidates is going to fix something, and in the end you're only choosing one of the recipes for the same disaster.

    What disaster? It's a chain reaction, let's take a look:
    -> Big state policies, overregulation of the private sector and overgenerous social policies.
    -> Globalist policies, non-common sense trade agreements and benefits for foreign citizens and 'minorities'.

    -> Overgenerous social policies lead to: huge public spending
    -> Taxes rise.
    -> There's low incentive to work.
    -> Private sector slows down.
    -> Government tax plans start to fail.
    -> Public debt increases.
    -> Austerity measures applied everywhere except on the cause of the problem, economy stagnates and living standards drop.
    -> Minimum wages drop // (provided the government still wants you to work for money, otherwise welcome to a communist/collectivist hell)
    == Authoritary governments love this.


    -> Overregulation of the private sector
    -> Companies need to do additional efforts to comply with regulations.
    -> Some regulations may stop business or force hiring lawyers.
    -> Small companies suffer the most, some of them close.
    -> Creating new small business becomes more difficult.
    -> Economy becomes less dynamic, big companies become more powerful.
    == Big international corporations love this.

    -> Non-common sense trade agreements
    -> Apply limits and tariphs on internal market (ex: Obamacare)
    --> Business cage is created.
    --> New businesses can't compete.
    --> Monopolies are created, big companies become more powerful.
    -> Remove tariphs when importing goods in high quality of life countries
    --> Cripple a government's ability to keep up with public spending (tariphs are a form of taxation after all)
    --> Same outcome as Overgenerous social policies.
    -> Protectionism of failed businesses (ex: Venezuelan farming, EU manufacturing)
    --> Failed businesses have no incentive to catch up or improve.
    --> Combined with Overregulation of the private sector, new national businesses cannot emerge to replace the failed businesses.
    == Big corporations love this.

    -> Benefits for foreign citizens and 'minorities'
    -> Huge economic migration into the country.
    --> Micro-communities of same ethnic-religious background are created.
    ----> Assimilation takes multiple generations, if it ever occurs.
    ----> Balkanization of the country.
    --> Social programs explode (negatively).
    ----> Increased public spending.
    ----> Same outcome as Overgenerous social policies, assisted with over-demand of job positions (ultra lowering wages)
    --> Increased housing demand.
    ----> Housing prices increase.
    ----> Inability to acquire house without inheritance.
    ----> Workers can't reliably move within the country.
    ----> Private sector stagnates, lack of oportunities.
    ----> Housing bubble is created on the long run.
    -> Minority empowerment
    --> Various forms of discrimination against citizens and/or ethnic majorities becomes law.
    ----> Supremacist groups emerge on all sides. (this includes feminism)
    ----> Double standards: criminalization of national supremacist groups, support of non-national/majority groups.
    ----> Race tensions increase, country is socially divided. (Racists are those who call you racist!!)
    == Ever-governing criminal career politicians love this.

    So, some common results of this disaster is:
    - Middle class decimation and elimination of the 'american dream' (aka: no chances to climb to the top).
    - Limitation of individual liberties and elimination of free-market.
    - Judicial system crippled, criminality soars.
    - National identity loss, civil conflicts on the long run.

    But wait! It doesn't end there, as measures to react to above results are applied, you'll start seeing:
    - Increased surveillance and gun control.
    ** Usually takes a self-induced trigger, imported terrorism for example... oh look, see why there's no vetting for immigration from ISIS occupied countries?.
    - Elimination of free speech.
    - Encouragement of state-approved murder.
    ** This is a tricky one... but you'll spot it if you look for it.

    And ultimately, you get:
    - Autocratic, unelected governments (hello EU).
    - Corporation sponsored laws.
    - Wage slavery.

    After all of the above, I cannot tell you that it is WRONG.
    It's not my decision, it's yours.
    Because if you believe you deserve to have your liberties stripped from you.
    Because if you believe the state has to take care of you when you're capable of taking are of yourself.
    Because if you believe that what you do is everyone else's business.
    Because if you believe that your well-being, your family's well being, your community's well being aren't all second to none.
    Because if you believe that you shouldn't have a say whan it comes to changing things your country, or ultimately the world.
    You deserve to be living in that world.
    You're no different to those that thousands of years ago said: the powerful is the righteous.


    Nationalism is only a reaction to all of the above, you are just dumb lucky enough to have an extremely capable nationalist emerge in one of the major parties with serious chances of winning, this is a historical turning point for your country.
    These are few and far between, whether it turns to the desired direction (which one is it for you?), is all in your mind and your actions (what will you do?)
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    Quote Originally Posted by SAM View Post
    Why do 'immigrants', refugees and asylum seekers exist?

    It's because US, UK and it's allies bomb the shit out of every other country. Believe it or not, these people miss their home countries and the life they had, before any other country took it upon themselves to police the world. The Western society is dysfunctional.

    I'm sorry but why shouldn't innocent people seek shelter? If the people of America really want to address immigrants, you need to address the country's warmongery. No one will come to yours if theirs is safe from yours.
    Except for that whole issue of demographics of "asylum seekers" - there is an inordinately low % of women and children and an inordinately high % of fighting age males.

    Syria only makes "sense" once you've read up on the Oded Yinon plan.

    Quote Originally Posted by LordRixuel View Post
    sup people of america, what do you think of Trump, and Clinton? o.o

    I read the news and the comments, and it looks like a lot of people favor Trump over Clinton.

    What are the pros and cons of the candidates?
    What might happen next?

    (sorry, im just too curious)
    Anyone that doesnt know by now that Clinton is a career criminal that sells state secrets to the highest bidder and is a globalist bitch has their head under a rock.

    You know the JustUs system here is broken when we have a member of the oligarchy caught red handed in a huge number of felonies and the director of the FBI says he just doesnt see that any sane prosecutor would bring charges here.




    Then you go look at what they did to Bryan Nishimura, Bradley Manning, or even Petraeus, and you realize there's a set of laws for us fkn plebes and another set of laws for the big oligarchs.


    The Clinton foundation is nothing but a personal slush fund that was set up as a front to solicit "donations" or bribes however you want to call them....well, Hitlery is in their back pocket now, and they will want a return on their investment, so this is why she hasnt been charged. Her servers were wide fucking open for anyone that knew they were there, and she had the State Department disable security features on State Department SERVERS just so that cankles could get her illegitimate email.

    If you fuck with their "investments" or the way they do things, please see what they did to Martin Armstrong.



    But I'd honestly rather see her not get charged now, this way Obama wont be able to pardon her, then president Trump can put the bitch in shackles.




    Trump is a wildcard in that you dont fully know what he'll do and how he'll do it, since he's had to keep his cards close to his chest. But he's the only one that already had enough money that they couldnt buy him off, and with all the establishment Rs talking about voting for cankles because trump wasnt the right guy, that tells you plenty right there.


    Regarding trade wars...look, go read up on what "Free Trade" agreements have done for us. They are the equivalent of the South demanding to retain slavery so as to keep up the profit margin.

    The way the US Government funded itself from its inception was not via income taxes, but via TARIFFS. This has been turned on its head, at the behest of corporations, at the expense of the citizenry. (And really let's be honest here, its not as if the 16th amendment was ever properly ratified, in fact my state never ratified it, it never was ratified by 2/3rds of the states - they just did the same thing they did with Obamacare - they simply declared it to be law.)
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    Race War in Dallas! A^3 ARE YOU OK HOMIE? 4 Dallas cops already dead from "peaceful" and "tolerant" black lives matter domestic terrorist group :{D.

    http://archive.is/Ht9iG

    https://twitter.com/eastlxrd/status/...961024?lang=en

    Not even a full day since this comes out from the Clinton investigation




    FUCKKKK I NEED MY TEAM4ADMINS HERE STAT, BRING SHOCK RIFFLES AND BE READY TO DEFEND THE BASE.

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    Quote Originally Posted by |uK|Rays View Post
    Race War in Dallas! A^3 ARE YOU OK HOMIE? 4 Dallas cops already dead from "peaceful" and "tolerant" black lives matter domestic terrorist group :{D.

    http://archive.is/Ht9iG

    https://twitter.com/eastlxrd/status/...961024?lang=en

    Not even a full day since this comes out from the Clinton investigation




    FUCKKKK I NEED MY TEAM4ADMINS HERE STAT, BRING SHOCK RIFFLES AND BE READY TO DEFEND THE BASE.

    Rip Dallas

    Rip rays

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    2nd admin reporting in, how's the situation CHEF?
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    Protest happening here in OKC on Sunday, cops everywhere today already. Hoping for no more violence so they can't use it as an excuse to take the guns away.


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    Quote Originally Posted by |uK|Rays View Post
    an excuse to take the guns away.
    dingdingdingdingding
    we have a winna
    “I was not proud of what I had learned but I never doubted that it was worth knowing.”
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    “Gold is the money of kings, silver is the money of gentlemen, barter is the money of peasants – but debt is the money of slaves.”

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