UL Sven teamswitching

**Scourge** · 09-13-2016

Screenshots attached. Opportunistic switching, not de-stacking.

Second screenie is just to talk shit about LC

Guy was killing people with piston from 30 feet away

**Jst2blond** · 09-13-2016

He is S@@d aka Assassin. Isn't he the banned and unwanted one ? @Higor @fleecey

**DANGERBOY** · 09-13-2016

Didn't @Fleecey just banned him like 2 days ago for the same thing? Lololol

**CoD|JIgSaW** · 09-13-2016

http://www23.zippyshare.com/v/PvhQDllJ/file.html
1 minute ago

**Chamberly** · 09-13-2016

Banned until Sept. 20, 2016.

Let any of us know if he try to get back in.

**Skarn** · 09-13-2016

There's 2 of em, I guess this was his cousin.

**Scourge** · 09-13-2016

@|uK|B|aZe//. Is team switching to un-stack teams allowed?

**IronMaiden** · 09-13-2016

Originally Posted by Scourge

@|uK|B|aZe//. Is team switching to un-stack teams allowed?

Your average !s (!t) !p or !r++ !b++ is obviously not allowed.

We just recently had this topic in mod forum. The general census based on Blaze�s guideline is, that we let �un-stacking� happen IF:

- it is done by trustworthy people (people who are not repeat team switching offenders)
- it is announced or discussed somehow with the people playing and / or present mods
- nobody complains

Hence if this is causing complains on either side, unbalanced teams in the end or is being used so that friends can team up, this is not ok.

We also don�t want a major discussion each game if teams should be manually balanced.

This �exception� is only called for in extreme !stats cases, for example a diff of 300+.

**jay2** · 09-13-2016

Originally Posted by IronMaiden

Your average !s (!t) !p or !r++ !b++ is obviously not allowed.

We just recently had this topic in mod forum. The general census based on Blaze’s guideline is, that we let “un-stacking” happen IF:

- it is done by trustworthy people (people who are not repeat team switching offenders)
- it is announced or discussed somehow with the people playing and / or present mods
- nobody complains

Hence if this is causing complains on either side, unbalanced teams in the end or is being used so that friends can team up, this is not ok.

We also don’t want a major discussion each game if teams should be manually balanced.

Shouldn't we be able to switch back to our original team?

No one wants to play on a team they've been fighting against for 40 mins.

This ‘exception’ is only called for in extreme !stats cases, for example a diff of 300+.

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**IronMaiden** · 09-13-2016

Originally Posted by jay2

Shouldn't we be able to switch back to our original team?

It depends on the situation and the players.

If you have a disconnect or your UT crashes, you come back within half a minute, somebody else takes your old spot, you end up on the other team and its 4 vs 5, we would let you go back to your old team if it results in a 5 vs 4. In that case a !r++ / !b++ wouldn't push you back if somebody balances teams.

If a mod is online AND saw what happened, he might move you to your old team and the guy who just joined to the other team since he has nothing to lose so to speak. That being said keep in mind that mods can’t always keep track of every persons situation. If you played for a prolonged time in team A and a disconnect or crash pushes you into team B, and teams would be unbalanced if you would go back (6 vs 4 for example), just ask a mod via PM to be moved back. He will do so when the next person joins. I hear the PM sound almost always, even if doing something else, but don't expect mods to read the entire chat history.

Now, if several player get disconnected or the same people get repeatedly disconnected because the server is lagging out or because of network issues, moving people around can get easily messy and chances are that others start to complain. In that case it is what it is.

In general one thing can be said: if all would act with common sense and courtesy for everyone playing, we wouldn’t need rules and we wouldn’t have to enforce any. When teams and player find ways to arrange themselves in a friendly and all around acceptable way, we are often not interfering or enforcing rules. That’s at least my perspective on it, give a little, take a little. Other mods might handle situations slightly different.

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