Current siege version

[][X][~FLuKE~][X][]

Minigun = Rapid fire ZP sniper rifle - needs to have the shit nerfed out of it

lag compensator is still doing the opposite of what it should be doing.

50-70% Shots still not registering from sniper, in fact I think it is worse since the last update.

Server crashing.

Seems it gets gradually worse each release.


I am curious as to why the server never gets reverted back to the best working version until the problems have been smoothed out, forcing players put up with problems until the next release is wrong and frustrating for them and is exactly what has happened over recent weeks, loyal traffic should come first, mod development second and keep them as happy as you can with solid versions, not ones riddled with issues or game changing changes.

@Higor, from one developer to another.....you should stop forcing people to use bad versions/Releases, you will lose support rapidly and without support you are basically lining yourself up to be flamed and blamed. You are the developer so you have the control, do you really want people to think your coding skills are poor? because that is what is happening because you are forcing them to use broken versions. Not insulting you at all, I am giving you a reality check from personal experience of what happens if you keep releasing buggy versions with many faults and things added/removed without checking what the people would prefer.

Not liking additions/removals/changes is a normal process of development, crashing, bugs and serious game inhibiting problems is not. The development of siege is being portrayed very badly and seems to be getting worse, soon all you will end up doing for months is fixing bugs/problems along side losing the support of the siege community.

this feels like deja vu.

[|uK|kenneth]

1 guy in the server when i joined today gj.

[SAM]

So. Siege ultimate 21 then?

[Sheepy]

why doesn't siege use newnet?

[|uK|B|aZe//.]

bring back zeroping

zp211 like fluke said which fixes the double shot with sniper problem. also bring back the siege version first used in the last mlsg season that just finished before the season even started

was either v3 or v4 im not sure now cause theres so many versions

[|uK|fleecey]

@Chamberly why do you dislike the post? you think the siege version that is on right now is good?

[Higor]

I leave for 1 day...
And none of the 'small' changes was supposed to even affect any critical server components, besides fixing imagedropping in a safer and less expensive way.
I really doubt the Siege package is doing this but I'll profile the server to see if I can reproduce this.

EDIT: I see 23 players and 8 spectators.
Kenneth, would you kindly STFU?

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@SAM

r=65
cli=28
act=2.8~4.0
net=16~23

The server's CPU can't handle the replication code, something is horribly hogging the Server's resources.

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@SAM

I will reduce tickrate from 65 to 50 until I can find out what's going on.

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r=50
cli=28
act=2.8~4.0
net=12~19

Tickrate 50 profile, 300 net channels open which is excessive.
I believe we've got lots of bAlwaysRelevant actors with a NetUpdateFrequency of 100 getting replicated to all players.
0011 isn't creating any new actors, I will take a look at this NexGen later.
If it's the NUF value, it could be tweaked without replacing the package.

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Had my profilers print a client actor list:
Actors 0-119 are the map's static actors (Command 4 way).
Actor 120 is the local player pawn.
Actor 121 and on are local and replicated actors.
Saved move actors are data placeholders created on the client.

Everything else (except items and weapons) will be subject to analysis.
EDIT: Filtered list.

ScriptLog: Actor 120: bbCHSpectator0
ScriptLog: Actor 122: NexgenClient7
ScriptLog: Actor 123: GeneralConfig6
ScriptLog: Actor 124: ServerConfig6
ScriptLog: Actor 125: NexgenLang6
ScriptLog: Actor 126: NexgenHUD6
ScriptLog: Actor 127: TMale11
ScriptLog: Actor 128: PlayerShadow147
ScriptLog: Actor 129: TMale47
ScriptLog: Actor 130: PlayerShadow148
ScriptLog: Actor 131: TMale12
ScriptLog: Actor 132: PlayerShadow149
ScriptLog: Actor 133: TFemale48
ScriptLog: Actor 134: PlayerShadow150
ScriptLog: Actor 135: TMale48
ScriptLog: Actor 136: PlayerShadow151
ScriptLog: Actor 137: TFemale40
ScriptLog: Actor 138: PlayerShadow152
ScriptLog: Actor 139: TFemale41
ScriptLog: Actor 140: PlayerShadow153
ScriptLog: Actor 141: TFemale49
ScriptLog: Actor 142: PlayerShadow154
ScriptLog: Actor 143: TMale49
ScriptLog: Actor 144: PlayerShadow155
ScriptLog: Actor 145: TMale50
ScriptLog: Actor 146: PlayerShadow156
ScriptLog: Actor 147: TFemale50
ScriptLog: Actor 148: PlayerShadow157
ScriptLog: Actor 149: TMale51
ScriptLog: Actor 150: PlayerShadow158
ScriptLog: Actor 151: TFemale51
ScriptLog: Actor 152: PlayerShadow160
ScriptLog: Actor 153: TFemale42
ScriptLog: Actor 154: PlayerShadow162
ScriptLog: Actor 155: TMale52
ScriptLog: Actor 156: PlayerShadow163
ScriptLog: Actor 157: TMale13
ScriptLog: Actor 158: PlayerShadow164
ScriptLog: Actor 159: TFemale52
ScriptLog: Actor 160: PlayerShadow165
ScriptLog: Actor 161: TFemale43
ScriptLog: Actor 162: PlayerShadow166
ScriptLog: Actor 163: TFemale44
ScriptLog: Actor 164: PlayerShadow167
ScriptLog: Actor 165: sgBaseCore0
ScriptLog: Actor 166: WildcardsMeshFX0
ScriptLog: Actor 167: sgBaseCore1
ScriptLog: Actor 168: WildcardsMeshFX1
ScriptLog: Actor 169: SAClient1
ScriptLog: Actor 170: sgPlayerData1
ScriptLog: Actor 171: sgPlayerData3
ScriptLog: Actor 172: SoundsHUDNotify0
ScriptLog: Actor 173: sgPlayerData4
ScriptLog: Actor 174: sgPlayerData5
ScriptLog: Actor 175: sgPlayerData6
ScriptLog: Actor 176: sgPlayerData7
ScriptLog: Actor 177: sgSpecInv0
ScriptLog: Actor 178: sgPlayerData8
ScriptLog: Actor 179: sgPlayerData9
ScriptLog: Actor 180: sgPlayerData10
ScriptLog: Actor 181: sgPlayerData11
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ScriptLog: Actor 183: sgPlayerData13
ScriptLog: Actor 184: sgPlayerData14
ScriptLog: Actor 185: sgPlayerData15
ScriptLog: Actor 186: sa0
ScriptLog: Actor 187: sgPlayerData16
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ScriptLog: Actor 189: sgPlayerData18
ScriptLog: Actor 190: sgPlayerData19
ScriptLog: Actor 191: sgPlayerData20
ScriptLog: Actor 192: sgGameReplicationInfo0
ScriptLog: Actor 193: NexgenABMClient1
ScriptLog: Actor 196: sgBaseCore2
ScriptLog: Actor 197: WildcardsMeshFX9
ScriptLog: Actor 204: NXPClient1
ScriptLog: Actor 205: NXPLang1
ScriptLog: Actor 206: TeamInfo24
ScriptLog: Actor 210: NexgenClientCore7
ScriptLog: Actor 215: ConsoleChecker0
ScriptLog: Actor 219: sgPRI0
ScriptLog: Actor 220: sgClient0
ScriptLog: Actor 221: sgPRI1
ScriptLog: Actor 222: SavedMove303
ScriptLog: Actor 223: FV_ImpactMacroActor13
ScriptLog: Actor 224: sgHUD0
ScriptLog: Actor 225: FontInfo24
ScriptLog: Actor 226: ServerInfoTeam6
ScriptLog: Actor 227: FontInfo25
ScriptLog: Actor 228: SoundsHUDHelper0
ScriptLog: Actor 229: sgPRI2
ScriptLog: Actor 232: sgPRI3
ScriptLog: Actor 233: PlayerReplicationInfo14
ScriptLog: Actor 257: TeamInfo25
ScriptLog: Actor 268: SAReplicationInfo1
ScriptLog: Actor 272: NexgenConfigExt6
ScriptLog: Actor 274: TeamInfo26
ScriptLog: Actor 287: NexgenGameInfo6
ScriptLog: Actor 292: TeamInfo27
ScriptLog: Actor 356: sgPRI5
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ScriptLog: Actor 364: sgPRI10
ScriptLog: Actor 365: sgPRI11
ScriptLog: Actor 368: sgPRI12
ScriptLog: Actor 371: sgPRI13
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ScriptLog: Actor 373: sgPRI15
ScriptLog: Actor 374: PlayerReplicationInfo15
ScriptLog: Actor 379: sgPRI16
ScriptLog: Actor 380: sgPRI17
ScriptLog: Actor 381: sgPRI18
ScriptLog: Actor 382: sgPRI20
ScriptLog: Actor 383: sgPRI21
ScriptLog: Actor 388: sgPRI23
ScriptLog: Actor 390: sgPRI24
ScriptLog: Actor 391: sgPRI25
ScriptLog: Actor 392: sgPRI26
ScriptLog: Actor 393: NexgenSharedDataSyncManager8
ScriptLog: Actor 394: NXPHUD1
ScriptLog: Actor 395: NexgenSharedDataSyncManager9
ScriptLog: Actor 396: NexgenPlayerInfo120
ScriptLog: Actor 397: NexgenPlayerInfo121
ScriptLog: Actor 398: NexgenPlayerInfo122
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ScriptLog: Actor 415: NexgenPlayerInfo142
ScriptLog: Actor 416: NexgenPlayerInfo143
ScriptLog: Actor 417: NexgenPlayerInfo145
ScriptLog: Actor 418: SALang1
ScriptLog: Actor 419: NXPConfigDC1
ScriptLog: Actor 420: NexgenABMConfigDC1
ScriptLog: Actor 421: NexgenABMBanListDC1
ScriptLog: Actor 422: NXPMapListDC1
ScriptLog: Actor 423: sgScore0
ScriptLog: Actor 424: FontInfo26
ScriptLog: Actor 428: sgPlayerData22
ScriptLog: Actor 429: sgPRI30
ScriptLog: Actor 431: TMale53
ScriptLog: Actor 432: PlayerShadow169
ScriptLog: Actor 433: NexgenPlayerInfo150
ScriptLog: Actor 435: sgPRI31
ScriptLog: Actor 437: NexgenPlayerInfo151
ScriptLog: Actor 438: TMale55
ScriptLog: Actor 439: PlayerShadow171
ScriptLog: Actor 440: sgPlayerData24
ScriptLog: Actor 442: sgPRI33
ScriptLog: Actor 443: NexgenPlayerInfo152
ScriptLog: Actor 444: sgPRI34
ScriptLog: Actor 447: NexgenPlayerInfo153
ScriptLog: Actor 541: sgPlayerData26
ScriptLog: Actor 543: TMale56
ScriptLog: Actor 544: PlayerShadow173
ScriptLog: Actor 545: sgPRI36
ScriptLog: Actor 546: NexgenPlayerInfo154
ScriptLog: Actor 547: zp_SniperRifle160
ScriptLog: Actor 548: sgBuildingCH0
ScriptLog: Actor 549: UT_Eightball552
ScriptLog: Actor 552: zp_SniperRifle168
ScriptLog: Actor 553: UT_Eightball558
ScriptLog: Actor 554: UT_Eightball562
ScriptLog: Actor 555: sgConstructor149
ScriptLog: Actor 556: zp_SniperRifle172
ScriptLog: Actor 557: sgEnforcer243
ScriptLog: Actor 558: sgEnforcer245
ScriptLog: Actor 559: UT_Eightball565
ScriptLog: Actor 560: ut_biorifle124
ScriptLog: Actor 561: zp_SniperRifle173
ScriptLog: Actor 562: sgEnforcer248
ScriptLog: Actor 563: UT_Eightball567
ScriptLog: Actor 564: UT_Eightball568
ScriptLog: Actor 565: zp_SniperRifle176
ScriptLog: Actor 566: zp_ShockRifle116
ScriptLog: Actor 567: sgMinigun77
ScriptLog: Actor 568: sgNukeLauncher23
ScriptLog: Actor 569: sgEnforcer249
ScriptLog: Actor 570: UT_FlakCannon157
ScriptLog: Actor 571: zp_SniperRifle177
ScriptLog: Actor 572: zp_ShockRifle117
ScriptLog: Actor 573: zp_SniperRifle178
ScriptLog: Actor 574: sgMinigun78
ScriptLog: Actor 575: zp_ShockRifle118
ScriptLog: Actor 576: ripper103
ScriptLog: Actor 577: UT_FlakCannon158
ScriptLog: Actor 578: zp_SniperRifle179
ScriptLog: Actor 579: sgMinigun79
ScriptLog: Actor 580: sgEnforcer250
ScriptLog: Actor 581: UT_Eightball571
ScriptLog: Actor 582: sgPulseGun40

[|uK|kenneth]

dude why the fuck are you raging its true. there was 1 guy in the server when i joined today.

[Higor]

118 NPLoader actors being constantly polled for variable changes, for 28 clients on every frame?
@SAM, I could use a server changelog.

ScriptLog: Actor 121: NPLReplicationInfo611
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[TDNConvict]

agreed server has been aweful for a long time now.. if you put last mlsg seasons version on all the binds will be fucked up again but at least it will be working better.... I still don't understand why you don't just go off the pug version....