Cheat on us Server

**Provocation** · 05-14-2014

Hi I have as proof unfortunately only one Image. But you still recognize it. 29 Frags / -52 pts

Playername: [133730-5058937]
Server: zp| [=======] [PURE] [INSTAGIB] [US] [=======]
Time: 14 May 2014 / 13:12 p.m.
Cheat: No idea I have seen for the first time today (Each of the spawns is killed)

and a question to the programmer, under the UT Zene. Has anyone of you might relish and time, To improve ACE? So to make an update?
I'd help but I know I am not out of order! who really something great.

end sorry for my bad english.

**BouRiN** · 05-14-2014

He's now take the name of a player, so it's hard to kick the good guy.
I've already posted a demo but no answer from admins....
He's ruin all games by just come 2 minutes on each maps...

A sure think is that he's come to forum because he's tell me i complain about him, blablabla....

**Provocation** · 05-14-2014

Hmm If that's the same as he does that he always comes from a different Country? Or there are several who want to destroy the game.
If you checked her who it is not bad to post his original screen name. For such players the cheat want to think it over 2 times.

**ZodiaK** · 05-14-2014

Guy always changes countries.

**Chamberly** · 05-14-2014

I'd like to see him on so I can spank his hind end.

**|uK|fleecey** · 05-14-2014

Same guy, different countries.
Is ace on that server? Maybe time to put it on otherwise.

**Higor** · 05-14-2014

ACE has nothing to do here.
We're talking about extreme design flaws in NewNet.

**Chamberly** · 05-14-2014

Originally Posted by Higor

ACE has nothing to do here.
We're talking about extreme design flaws in NewNet.

How did you know about that?

**Higor** · 05-14-2014

- NewNet lets the player lead until certain disagreements are found in both ends.
- NewNet code has gone open source.
- Looks nothing like ZP massmurder *pre cratos hack fix*... *sarcasm*

This can be easily fixed... by implementing consistency checks, the very same kind of checks that make LC nearly impossible to mess around on any server, the ones that got me flamed for shots not registering.

Cratos' fix consisted more on adding a sanity check before damage being applied, a simple Visibility check.
While sure, you could still massmurder... but not anyone not visible to you (server context)... this hurt high pingers a lot in maps with hiding spots.

The checks can be added as simple conditionals... which may add limitations as the example stated above.
Or can be added as an entire subsystem itself, but that would repeat LCWeapons' shots missing for a few months *plus movement stuff* all over again until properly researched and tweaked to work in 99% of cases.

I didn't take the work to go all over the code and find the exploit, but someone clearly has.
Maybe I went full retard and it isn't newnet...

Facts are:
- The only damage type that triggers that kind of death message is 'Eradicated' and no standard weapon or zone uses that, it's clearly being forced by the cheater... or being exploited by a compatibility error with another existing weapon mod (grapple maybe?) with NewNet.

**TimTim** · 05-14-2014

Or instead of spending all that time on it which will eventually lead to countless bounced shots and worse gameplay for the 99.9% of legitimate players, find other ways to automatically detect the blatantly obvious cheater and ban him instantly every time. There's a reason so many people love and prefer newnet, but this same reason is of course a trade off. It's not worth it to degrade gameplay for the vast majority of players just to prevent a few idiots from blatantly cheating.

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