Secondary fire

[DaaBuu]

noobs complaining cuz they cant spam anymore... learn to aim now

You can fire only a SINGLE shock ball. How is that spamming?

unless you spend your time calculating and predicting the player's movement in the game to kill him with a shock ball or a grapple hook

My point exactly!

[kdawg232]

noobs complaining cuz they cant spam anymore... learn to aim now

The benefits of secondary is huge when you run O as often as I do. People who camp in 1 spot going for efficiency, then this new mod helps them camp further. There's already so many insta servers out there, why convert to another one?

But the biggest complaint like I had before is when you go to combo someone, and they run into the shock ball at the same time you go to explode it, it creates a barrier wall for that guy and they end up not dying, leaving you open for an easy kill. Very frustrating. I think the best way to correct this and make everyone happy is make the shock ball do the same damage as it would in weapons (-60 per hit). This way you wouldn't die from spamming balls instantly but you also wouldn't be screwed by someone running into it, thus creating a barrier.

[Keith]

in combo people are too busy spamming shock balls hoping for kills instead of trying to aim that's my point

[kdawg232]

in combo people are too busy spamming shock balls hoping for kills instead of trying to aim that's my point

There's spam in any mod really. In weapons, you have the people who just load up on rockets. In insta, you have the people who sit in 1 spot and once you turn the corner, bam, they hit you with an easy shot. You can't make everyone happy....I just feel like if people want insta, then go to the 1000 insta servers out there. There's no point in combo in this mod because it actually hurts you by going for it with that barrier I mentioned above.

[Keith]

thats why i completely gave up on combo... so i think its a good thing sam fixed it

[SAM]

You can fire multiple alt now which means it allows for more skillful comboing and also the ability to fire some decoys. When the Alt hits a player you can still primary fire the person. So if the Alt is hitting the player and you're just about to combo anyway, you would still get the kill unless your aim was off?

Allowing the Alt to do dmg makes it more spammy. It covers a bigger radius then primary which means you could cover the whole map and spawns with Alt. We could go with limiting to one only but the idea behind this version is to make combo server more skillful. Because good comboing is hard to master.

[~~D4RR3N~~]

in combo people are too busy spamming shock balls hoping for kills instead of trying to aim that's my point

just a friendly reminder that we are talking about ctf, so is not only about aim, but going for the flag, covering, etc aswell

[Keith]

so?

[kdawg232]

You can fire multiple alt now which means it allows for more skillful comboing and also the ability to fire some decoys. When the Alt hits a player you can still primary fire the person. So if the Alt is hitting the player and you're just about to combo anyway, you would still get the kill unless your aim was off?

Allowing the Alt to do dmg makes it more spammy. It covers a bigger radius then primary which means you could cover the whole map and spawns with Alt. We could go with limiting to one only but the idea behind this version is to make combo server more skillful. Because good comboing is hard to master.

It's not that aim was off...at first you might think that but usually when primary hits directly into the guys chest over and over again without a kill, it leads you to believe a barrier is created from the shock ball. But maybe that's just me? I also seem to be the only one who has an issue on Woot where people are invisible.

[Fader]

I like that shock balls do no damage now... the only problem is that now its become a viable strategy to run into people who are intending to combo you just to make their ball go away... which is kind of a crappy side effect. if it's going to do no damage then maybe make it so shock balls don't collide with players?